i need more farts.....

ok, help here please from jpouchers..... how in the hell do you make yourself fart more???

i have way more gas inside me than wants to come out.
i go to the can and squirt squirt squirt.... wait... push... push... squirt.... fart silence....

where are the rest of my farts?
how do i get them outta me?

how odd is it to poo? it's happening and i'm pushing but it doesn't feel like me or my normal bum doing the job. so strange. no butt burn either so i'm happy about that.
no accidents. no issues with urgency.
i actually feel sometimes like i should go to the bathroom more and make something happen after hearing all the talk.
am i doing it wrong?

or is it just all over the place weirdness from here on out?

See you're getting there. The thing is sleepy still and the gas needs more time to work out. I finished reading "Dr. Proctor's Fart Powder" yesterday in the train; one full teaspoon of this powder had a little boy farting his way out of the belly of an annaconda python. Totally cool. Would work great for you. But they probably won't give you that in the hospital so you have to wait for nature to take it's course.

Pooing feels different because the muscles haven't been used in a while and it is coming directly out of the small intestine instead of the rectum. I'm in the 9th month post-takedown and am just getting used to the new feelings.

Seriously, very very important that you do not strain. That is not good for the pouch.

Here comes what I was not told in the hospital. I doubt you have damaged yourself already, really really doubt it. The amount of poo in you that needs to come out cannot possibly be so much, considering how much you are eating so there is no reason to be producing a lot.

First of all, what you need to start doing now and for the coming months is training your pouch. It has to learn what it is supposed to do because right now it hasn't got a clue and consider that just a few months ago it was a normal small intestine doing its work and minding its own business, then along came the surgeon and.... Seriously, you need to let it fill up and stretch and learn that it has to be a poo-container or reservoir. That means you have to wait and not run to the loo every time you feel like something is in there. This may cause some accidents while you are in hospital but so what. You need to withstand some discomfort when your body is telling you to push the stuff out. Don't. Wait. Hold Back Distract yourself. Try to wait even three hours. Let get really really full and then it will come out on its own without you forcing. Later you can start eating psyllium husk or whatever works for you to firm the stuff up. Then you can push a little, but don't strain. There is a difference. Waiting til the pouch is full and you really need to go will help make sure you can empty in one trip to the loo. I had problems with going, having to go 10 minutes later, and then 10 minutes after that. Training my body to get as full as it can and emptying it all in one go is a recent accomplishment that took some development.
I have to admit my first months were chaotic and I wasn't 100% in control. I hadn't used my sphincter in 12 months. It got much better after the 5th month. I'm not saying you will have that problem, but that you should expect a longer development - from month to month - for things to feel remotely normal.
Regarding what to do and how, you will get to know the changes and intutively figure out how you need to work your muscles, lower abs come into the picture now somehow.

When I have problems emptying and things are taking too long, from sitting position, I drop my upper body forward from the hips, til my hands hold my feet, my head hangs heavily and keeps sinking, body leaning forwards and downwards, and I really feel the stretch in my lowest vertebrae. Just dangle there a while, like 60 seconds and then push gently again. Leaning forwards tends to open things.

BTW you wouldn't believe the pile of reading material in my bathroom.

Post Edited (B'Dereh) : 12/12/2012 7:49:32 AM (GMT-7)

You sound similar to the way I was right after my takedown. I remember sitting at home the first couple of days worried there was something wrong because I would go so long between bathroom trips- and, like you, I would try to "make" myself go because I thought I really should be using the bathroom more than I was. When I think about it though, I really wasn't eating very much at all, not full-blown meals, and you probably aren't either. Even now, 7 months post-takedown, I will frequently have days when I go in the morning, then don't feel like I need to use the bathroom again until 3 or so in the afternoon. The real "action" happens in the evenings for me (though I still only go about 5-8 times a day now.) As time goes on, you will be able to tell how your pouch likes to do things- and adjustments and changes will continue to happen for up to two years, my surgeon told me. Everything B'Dereh said is spot-on. I personally don't take anything to thicken things, because for me when my stool is more formed or thick, I feel the need to strain more than a slight push to pass it, and I know that's not good for pouches. So I trade straining with formed stool for some occasional butt irritation with looser stool. It's usually not a problem though, just with certain foods.

As far as the gas, have you tried Beano? I was taking that sometimes in the beginning (thinking I should go back to it now- been eating a lot of veggies and boy oh boy do they make me fart, haha.) It works better than GasX because it prevents the gas from developing in the first place, I think. When I feel gas trapped inside of me, I lay on my back and tilt my pelvis/hips at an angle in the air. This often helps the gas to fly out of me!

Just drank a cup of chamomile tea and while drinking my tummy pressure eased from a 9 to a 7 now back up to 9 on pain scale.
No farts yet but I think I can feel them brewing.
Haven't pooed all day so before I read your post I went to toilet to try to receive some pressure and pushed a bit of pooy out and it was quite thick.

I am so upset right now at this level of gas pressure /pain. This is worse than the other 2 surgeries.

I hope this tea makes me fart. Lots. Soon.

I'm on day 9 and I still can't get my gas out.
I puked twice yesterday.
When I finally tried to force a poo it was quite thick.
But I also realised I'm not really eating.

Last night was horrible. The pain so bad I couldn't sleep.
I took my de-gas and the rumbling in my belly was loud. I felt it moving all over the place. Everywhere except out.

What is going on???? HELP

Do you think eating more food might help push things through? I've heard that an empty bowel (if you wait too long in between meals) produces more gas... Have you tried increasing your food intake (as painful as that sounds)? I can't yet because only on day two and still only approved for clear liquids... I think my bowels are not quite fully awake yet, but yours should be by now, I would think!

hey hey, I don't know about that apple or the juice. If anything at all, a spoonful of applesauce but I think it is too early. Normally, fruit counts as "eating light". But not now. Eating light means you get white toast, cream of wheat. some rice, a bit of chicken. Small portions. Nothing raw. Noodles are not bad.

I don't know if it's ok. I would really rather try out different posities, like lying down and bring knees up to chin, etc.

Oh I meant to ask you.... I bought some psyllium husk rough powder. Howmuch do I put into my smoothie ? And how many times a day do you have it?

Oh and I also find it better to get the ground husks, not the powder.