HealingWell
Search Close Search
☰

How long do you lay down after changing your Ostomy bag/Urine?

Support Forums
>
Ostomies
✚ New Topic ✚ Reply
❬ ❬ Previous Thread |Next Thread ❭ ❭
Posted 7/6/2013 9:06 PM (GMT 0)
From Anna, Hi, How long after changing your Ostomy bag/Urine do you lay & let it stick? If it comes off during the day I lay for 2 hours and let it stick. If its a night which I prefer I still hold it for 2 hours but it then has all night to stick.

Your friend,

Anna
Posted 7/6/2013 10:16 PM (GMT 0)
I don't. I spend about half an hour on a bag change, making sure it's stuck properly. This then lasts me anything up to 5 days, although I usually only go to 3. It sounds like you're having problems, as it shouldn't be coming off until you want it to for changing?
Posted 7/7/2013 4:19 AM (GMT 0)
Hi Anna, I don't either. I just put my bag on, put my hands over the top of the wafer - body warmth does make it stick better - for approx 1 minute and I'm good to go. You might want to experiment with different brands of bags to see if they stick better for you. 2 hours is a huge chunk out of your day that shouldn't be necessary.
Posted 7/7/2013 1:05 PM (GMT 0)
I put mine under my armpit while I sort everything out, this warms and softens the wafer. Sticks instantly ....I get 4-5 days
Posted 7/7/2013 1:54 PM (GMT 0)
I don't warm anything or hold the wafer on. I just stick it on and carry on. Sometimes I get right in the shower. Thank you Friars Balsam.

Dan
Posted 7/7/2013 4:39 PM (GMT 0)
I don't lay (or wait) at all, I can change my bag in literally a minute flat. I put it on, pull up my underpants and walk away. I change every 5 days
Posted 7/7/2013 4:58 PM (GMT 0)
I warm the barrier ring by sticking it in my bra until I need to use it. I place my hand over the wafer for a few minutes to warm it after it's on my skin, and I try not to twist or bend, but other than that I'm good to go. No hairdryers, lying down, etc.

I got 4+ days with this method with my end ileo, but the loop is giving me only 2-3 before the barrier breaks down and I have to change or risk skin irritation.
Posted 7/7/2013 6:01 PM (GMT 0)
From Anna,

Hi all, Thanks everyone for your imput. Someone said there must be something wrong. I agree that there is. For some reason the Coloplast Wafers don't seem sticky enough. I have complained but they still don't seem to be.

Your friend,

Anna
Posted 7/8/2013 11:12 AM (GMT 0)
Anna, Coloplast products might not be right for you skin type. Can you get samples of other brands to try out?
Posted 7/8/2013 12:10 PM (GMT 0)
I never got on with the Coloplast bags. They never seemed to stick that securely to me. If you're in the UK, try Salts or Dansac bags. If you're not, you might be able to get hold of those brands anyway - it's worth looking into. Anyway, I rate Salts bags the best. I haven't tried their Urostomy bags, but I presume they're as good as their ileostomy ones.

I don't lie down after changing a bag, but it does take about half an hour before the adhesive truly 'takes' to the skin - after that point I know it's secure. The only really crucial thing is to make sure your skin is utterly dry before applying the wafer - if it's still damp or moist in parts that will affect the adhesion. Kitchen paper actually seems to be the best thing for drying. Just crumple up a piece or two and hold it firmly over the stoma/skin, absorbing all the moisture.
Posted 7/8/2013 2:33 PM (GMT 0)
you're probably not doing anything wrong - you maybe were born with the wrong skin :-)

I have sahara desert skin - anything will stick to it - and stay sticked ! forever !

your skin is probably naturally oily - sorry, don't have any suggestions other than clean really well and dry it as much as possible before trying to stick anything to it -

Posted 7/8/2013 3:27 PM (GMT 0)
are you using the skin barrier? you know that wipe that supposed to be applied on the skin before putting the wafer on? if i don't use it, the wafer will come off within few hours. other than that, there's no need to spend too much time. i put my hands over it for maybe one minute tops and that's it.
Posted 7/8/2013 7:03 PM (GMT 0)

NiceCupOfTea said...
I never got on with the Coloplast bags. They never seemed to stick that securely to me. If you're in the UK, try Salts or Dansac bags. If you're not, you might be able to get hold of those brands anyway - it's worth looking into. Anyway, I rate Salts bags the best. I haven't tried their Urostomy bags, but I presume they're as good as their ileostomy ones.

I don't lie down after changing a bag, but it does take about half an hour before the adhesive truly 'takes' to the skin - after that point I know it's secure. The only really crucial thing is to make sure your skin is utterly dry before applying the wafer - if it's still damp or moist in parts that will affect the adhesion. Kitchen paper actually seems to be the best thing for drying. Just crumple up a piece or two and hold it firmly over the stoma/skin, absorbing all the moisture.

From Anna,

Hi NiceCupofTea, The Coloplast had been doing pretty good till about 9 months to a year ago. Coloplast is the wafer I use not the bag.

Anna
Posted 7/8/2013 7:05 PM (GMT 0)

2b ColonFree said...
are you using the skin barrier? you know that wipe that supposed to be applied on the skin before putting the wafer on? if i don't use it, the wafer will come off within few hours. other than that, there's no need to spend too much time. i put my hands over it for maybe one minute tops and that's it.

From Anna,

Hi 2b ColonFree, Coloplast Skin Barrier Wafer. That's what's not staying on good. It used to but for about 9 months to a year it hasn't.

Anna
Posted 7/8/2013 7:10 PM (GMT 0)
the skin can change with age, unfortunately. i would try other products. maybe different products of different companies can work better for your skin now.
Posted 7/9/2013 3:33 PM (GMT 0)
From Anna,

Hi 2b ColonFree, That's a good idea. Just don't know where to start.

Your friend,

Anna
Posted 7/9/2013 8:10 PM (GMT 0)
it's very simple, you just need to order samples from all the companies, try them all and see what works best. hope it works out for you.
Posted 7/10/2013 5:00 PM (GMT 0)
From Anna,

Hi 2b ColonFree. Thanks.

Your friend,

Anna
Posted 7/14/2013 6:19 AM (GMT 0)
I lay down for about 2 minutes. Just long enough to put pressure around the stoma with my fingers. I just started this about 6 weeks ago. It does work. I noticed the difference right away. I seemed to always have a small amount leak by. It still does but it's less.
Posted 7/14/2013 4:10 PM (GMT 0)
From Anna,

Hi Driver57. Thanks for responding.

Your friend,

Anna
Posted 7/14/2013 7:58 PM (GMT 0)
You bet Anna. I'm a year and a half into a permanent ileo so I'm still learning new things as I go. Or at least try something different now and then. Then keep doing it or not. The small amount that leaks by sometimes doesn't seem to damage my skin. I change every three days just in case.
Posted 7/14/2013 10:52 PM (GMT 0)
Some info for you, Anna.
Good luck,
Mike

OSTOMY APPLIANCE MANUFACTURES - USA


http://ostaway.com/
BagItAway.com Ostomy Supplies (Ostaway x-Bag)
Providing a more discreet solution for ostomy pouch disposal.
(800) 774-6097

CAVILON by 3M No Sting Liquid Bandage,
http://www.shop3m.com/70200763947.html? ... ProdSearch
A sting-free, alcohol-free liquid barrier film that dries quickly to form a breathable,
ransparent coating on the skin. Designed to protect intact or damaged
skin from urine, feces, other body fluids, tape trauma, and friction.
(800) 228-3957

Colo-Majic Liners
for Colostomates
Toll call (604) 988-2707
http://www.colostomymajic.com/
for Colostomates


COLOPLAST
http://www.us.coloplast.com/Pages/home.aspx
(888) 726-7872

ConvaTec
http://www.convatec.com/en/cvtus-produc ... ducts.html
(800) 422-8811
Hollister
http://www.hollister.com/
(888) 740-8999

Dansac
http://www.dansac.com/
(800) 699-4232

Eakin Cohesive Seals(800) 345-0473
http://www.eakin.eu/categories/2/patients.aspx

Genairex(877) 726-4400
http://www.genairex.com/

Marlen Ostomy Care Products
http://www.marlenmfg.com/
(216) 292-7060

Nu-Hope(800) 899-5017
http://www.nu-hope.com/

Osto- EZ-Vent
http://www.kemonline.com/content/admini ... roductInfo
(888) 562-8802

The Phoenix Magazine for Ostomates
http://www.phoenixuoaa.org/
(949) 600-7296

Torbot Skin Tac
http://www.torbot.com/
(800) 545-4254


Ostomy Appliance Suppliers USA:
http://www.ostomyok.org/tollfree.shtml




Ostomy Myths:
http://www.geocities.com/mr-ostomy/Ostomymyths1.htm


Ostomy Frequently Asked Questions:
http://www.uoaa.org/ostomy_info/faq.shtml



Re: Ostomy Pouch Lubricant/Deodorant - SUBSTITUTE?
by Charles_in_Tx ยป Yesterday 16:27:14
http://www.locostmedicalsupply.com/Osto ... dorant.htm


Odor control with 3% hydrogen peroxide

http://www.uoaa.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2958


http://www.foxhealthcare.com/products/s ... liminators

http://www.geocities.com/slikaz/NaScent.html

http://www.xocorp.com/

http://www.uoa.org/discussion/genboard0 ... /1374.html

http://www.ostofresh.com/htm/info.html

LBF wipes to help sealing?

http://www.premiersystems.net/ostomy-alliance/ostomates.pdf
Posted 7/15/2013 3:25 PM (GMT 0)
From Anna,

Hi Mickeyz, Thanks for all the info.

Your friend,

Anna
✚ New Topic ✚ Reply