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Posted 1/15/2019 5:14 PM (GMT 0)
For those who had both stomas. How different were the sizes of each? Were you able to keep using your supplies you already had?

My end stoma is currently at 30 mm (1 3/18 inches) and I hope that I can still use my supplies once I get the loop.
Posted 1/15/2019 8:30 PM (GMT 0)
Have you already pre-cut the supplies to your current Stoma size?

What kind of Ostomy system are you using, 1 piece, 2 piece?

Post Edited (Virdent) : 1/15/2019 1:35:34 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 1/15/2019 9:43 PM (GMT 0)
They are not pre-cut.

I'm using Hollister New Image & Ceraplus barrier (2 piece)
Posted 1/16/2019 2:20 AM (GMT 0)
Will the loop be much different than the end? Will it be most likely round? Will it stick out like the end?
Posted 1/16/2019 8:23 PM (GMT 0)
Then the new supplies will work, though if you are not already using an extra barrier system with the appliance I would recommend it with the Loop. It's been years since I had my Loop but as far as I remember, it is still mostly round, an End Ileostomy is like a Volcano where as the Loop is more like a Crater, an innie versus and outie. Though now that you got practice with the End Ileo you like a lot of us will figure it out. Just as I'm sure you didn't get the exact fit right off the bat though after a few weeks you figure out what works and what doesn't work. In my experience, the stool is a bit more acidic, watery, etc so they do leak more because of that and can irritate the skin more if any stool gets on your skin, which is why I recommended the extra barrier, but other than that it's essentially the same thing.

I had my Loop about 3 months, how long are you keeping yours?

Post Edited (Virdent) : 1/16/2019 1:36:07 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 1/17/2019 1:12 AM (GMT 0)
Nothing worked for my loop simply because it was oddly shaped. Not that it wasn't a circle around, but it was like a dome at the top and it didn't have a spout at all. My end was short too, i needed convex, but my loop couldn't even be well managed with a convex. Not even with convex and a ring. I am sure yours will be better. As far as size, I think my end was a bit under an inch, but almost exactly an inch (25mm or so). My loop was smaller if I remember correctly, but not enough that I needed different supplies for that reason. I needed different supplies because I needed a ring, and paste strips... and a one piece system since I was changing it all the time and I couldn't be bothered trying to do a good job only to change it 18 hours later.

When are you having step 2??????? smile
Posted 1/17/2019 8:28 PM (GMT 0)
What is an extra barrier? Can you show me a link of one? Ideally I would like to find something which will go well with my Hollister bags & barrier since I already have some.

I don't know for how long I will keep my loop for. It all depends on the surgeon. I have my next consultation with him on February 6th.

I love my end ileo though and I would keep it forever but I also want the j-pouch and I'm ready for the next step.
Posted 1/18/2019 3:40 AM (GMT 0)
I used this type of stuff:
https://www.coloplast.us/brava-strip-paste-en-us.aspx

Might be worth having on hand.
Posted 1/19/2019 2:44 AM (GMT 0)
Currently I'm still trying to get edgepark to verify my health insurance. I had to switch this year. I requested a sample from coloplast though. The ostomy nurses here don't come to my home. I have to go there. Whenever I'm at the hospital I visit them.
Posted 1/31/2019 11:01 PM (GMT 0)
So what exactly is the issue with the loop? You all gave me a link to make the barrier stick more. Does that indicate that I will leak more often? And why is that? Is there more rapid and more output during the night? I'm just trying to understand.
Posted 2/1/2019 3:25 AM (GMT 0)
My output was thinner, and it never stopped. There was really no good time to change because it was always going. The short dome shaped stoma somehow would always cause output to go around the edges of the wafer. The thin output coupled with the shape made it very difficult to manage. Other people have better luck.
Posted 2/2/2019 3:01 PM (GMT 0)
Many years ago I had a temporary loop ileostomy. To be honest, I don't remember ever having any issues with my loop. I NEVER had issue with output, pouching or leaking. I had that for about 3 months ...then I had a reversal. As you see, everyone's experience can be different.
At the present time I have a permanent end ileostomy. I will say that my loop looked very different than the end ileo I have now.
I just don't want you to be bummed out over having your loop. This is just a step along the road to having your next step.
Wishing you all the best!!!
Posted 2/6/2019 11:42 PM (GMT 0)
twingirl are you really a twin?

I asked my surgeon today if I will be able to use the same supplies he says most likely I will.
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