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Port Mac
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Posted 10/9/2010 1:43 AM (GMT 0)
I will be posting about
issues I have been having.
My back ground is that my mother died of a neuological disease...she was very independent to the end and strong. My mother -in-law died of Parkinsons and she was very dependent and her end was pathetic. They were opposite in their approach to dealing with disease.
What I have learned is that I hope I have the strenght to end my life when and only when I get to an advanced stage.
My problem is this...although I am a very highly functioning person with PD I cannot keep pace with my friends and family and as a result have become more and more isolated. I have good days and bad days. Sometimes on a bad day I feel terrible and here is the problem. I fear that I might end my life on a bad day at some stage....and then on a good day I realise how stupid that thought was.
I am not prepared to see a psychologist because Ihave seen three already. I have not mentioned the above because i feel as though they do not have the competance to handle it and if they knew then it could make things worse. In simple terms I find that psychologists are friendly, try and be helpful...they are educated and professional but they have no idea whatsoever of PD. They make impossible suggestions and just make me feel bad about
myself.
Where they go wrong is that they try and make my life to be normal as it was...it will never be that so I need somebody who can direct me into making the best of what I have to work with.
I really now is not the right time to end my life...too soon!!!!
On the other hand I am very wary about
seeking help because I really fear the consequences of seeking help based on past experiences.
I am of christian persuasion but the last thing i want is people to pray for me...or if they do pray for me for God`s sake do not tell me.
We have a family meber who is in a religious order and he/she always says she prays for me every day....what I want is cold hard practical "garden variety" help...not prayers!
polishdan
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Posted 10/9/2010 2:53 AM (GMT 0)
PortMac
I can understand what you are saying. I am 66YO and with meds I have virtually no PD symptoms. My dad had a masssive stroke at 56YO that left him unable to speak and with no right hand or leg coordination. He drove race cars in the 20's, 30's and 40's. Had an auto repair business. Then he had the stroke and everything stopped completely. He never worked another day in his life and could not even drive a car. He lived another 23 years. It had to be he** for him. I saw it and vow I will never let my life be like that. My suggestion is what I plan to do when the PD is worse. Write yourself a letter. Tell yourself just what you said...."on a good day I realise how stupid that thought was". Tell yourself how things are on a good day. Then on a bad day read your letter. It might make things look better.....maybe not.
Dan
Port Mac
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Posted 10/9/2010 5:53 AM (GMT 0)
Dan
Thanks for the reply...I will do that but the problem is that I might do something sudden or impulsive.
esoR
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Posted 10/9/2010 4:30 PM (GMT 0)
Port Mac,
I do not have PD, but I have something called Pelvic Adhesive Disease from having what turned out to be two unneeded pelvic surgeries at 2 separate times in my life. Only part of a second surgery was needed result of the first surgery. Second surgery involved a serious misdiagnosis of what needed to be done, procedures done beyond consent, no follow up to complications. In essence my small and large intestines scarred shut from severe internal scarring.
It took me 13 months seeing 11 surgeons at 7 major medical centers across the US. All the time being unable to defecate due to large bowel scarring and unable to eat due to small bowel scarring. Two times I mentioned wondering if I should just end it and got tossed into a psych ward after saying it once at one hospital, and "sentenced" to psych eval after saying it the second time to my PCP in my home town. TRUST me DO NOT voice this thought to any psych or medical person as they will take inappropriate action to cover their own butts!
What you need it the appropriate MEDICAL help. I found mine at a place that is on the cutting edge of technology and medicine but is a well-kept secret very little publicized. If you can, get yourself to the Lahey Clinic in Burlington, MA. They did what COULD humanly be done to save me and now I am going on world cruises, able to eat, gain nutrients, and pass waste, though not in the conventional manner, but still, I'm alive and for now feeling as well as I can. I do still have potential for possible future sequela, but maybe not, so I'm seizing the days! I'm now only 54 and would be in excellent shape other than having gone down the road I did, but I'm alive and functioning and enjoying life more than most people having looked death square in the eye.)
Through a friend of mine whose brother has PD and is being treated there, they do have some new PD drugs that are very effective and more are being researched there all the time. Google Lahey Clinic Medical Center and you will find their tel. number. Trust me, do not give up until you get seen by this place. Other major medical centers were just going to let me die. THis place saved me. Take my advice.
Been there, Rosemary
Port Mac
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Posted 10/9/2010 8:46 PM (GMT 0)
I would agree, I would never tell a doctor this because they might put me in a psych ward and definately create problems then.
Unfortunately, I am in Australia so it is a bit far away.
For me, I have to hope for the best and resurect what I can.
I will send more details next time.
Thanks so much , Rosemary
SMITY
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Posted 10/11/2010 3:16 AM (GMT 0)
I have never been at the place that you are but I can tell you that there are times when I wonder how much of my problem is pd and how much is related to posssible other causes. I can be fine for a month or two and then everything seems to fall apart- like now - my feet and legs are swelling and some days it is very hard to walk and keep my balance...but by the same token, I can bend over and not get dizzy at all and have no fear of falling.
I am currently seeing a psychologist and she is great or me. She has pointed out that when my stress level gets so high that that is when it seems the worst..so I try each day to look at others that are much worse than I am and that helps a lot. You just have to keep as positive attitude as you possibly can whuch is not very easy to do. It is very difficult to explain to your doctor just what you are feeling because they themself have never experienced it - they just see a multiple of patients and try to sort it out. we are all different and react different to everything.
I hope you feel better soon. Keep in touch Smity
Port Mac
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Posted 10/16/2010 9:23 AM (GMT 0)
I guess I am just so lonely...I have lost a lot of social contact because my friends are very active people and I cannot keep pace so slowly I was left out of the active stuff and then I was left out of the not so active stuff. What happens is that I started to have less in common with my friends. I was a musician (hobby) but have not played for a couple of years. Problem is that I often get too tired and then when I pick up the instrument I am out of practise and that is frustrating so there is no point in playing anymore.
I have a very active wife who loves to travel but I cannot take the long plane trips and then I move too slowly. Last time I went away was in 2006 and I would be left behind at the resort because I could not move fast enough..I slow people up too much.
I would really like a holiday but who do I go with...my wife is great for a day or two but she is so fast she gets frustrated.
The reality is I can do quite a bit physically but not at the same rate as other people.
Rightly or wrongly I have given up seeing the specialist....he does not hear anything...but most of all I do not want to hear the words that he cannot do much more..that would be the "final nail in my coffin."
Thanks for your messages.
polishdan
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Posted 10/17/2010 12:30 AM (GMT 0)
Are you seeing a movement disorder specialist or a general neurologist? Movement disorder specislists specialize in PD. They are above general neurologists regarding PD.
Dan
Port Mac
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Posted 10/17/2010 4:59 AM (GMT 0)
Dan,
I am not sure....I think he is a general neurologist...I have a lot of connections in the medical game and the doctor is very well thought of. Apparently I have atypical PD which makes it harder to manage.
I will talk to my GP about
it.
What I will do...when I get the motivation to make an appointment...I will put my issues and problems in writing and send them to the doctor before hand.
Thanks
Cowlady1960
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Posted 2/8/2011 12:53 AM (GMT 0)
Port Mac,I can understand completely what you are talking about
,my mother is in the end stages and I can see myself doing some of the same things she has done when first diag. and it scares the crap out of me..No one seems to understand. I have also reached a decision that I will not live like that I have discussed my options with my husb. I want to die with some dignity and not put my family through all of the things I have gone thr. with my mother I am here if you need someone to talk to who understands...
Cheerbabe14
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Posted 2/12/2011 5:16 PM (GMT 0)
Hey! I'm not sure if you remember me but I'm the 14 year old who's dad has parkinson's. My dad use to do a lot of things with his friends but now that he shakes he dose'nt do as much because he is embarresed. He used to eat every Saturday with a group of friends but now he dosent know how messy it will be or what his friends will say. I know his friends care about
him and though I don't know you are your friends, if they are you true friends they won't mind if you are sick.
Another you may consider is family counseling, I remember you mentioning that you have kids. It may be good them to know that even though you are sick you can still do a lot of things you used to do. I'm glad you want to be independent but don't try to handle everything on your own
polishdan
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Posted 2/14/2011 3:50 AM (GMT 0)
Cheerbabe
I don't remember seeing you post before. Tell us about
your dad. How old is he, when was he diagnosed, what does he take, etc.
Dan
Cheerbabe14
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Posted 2/14/2011 4:09 AM (GMT 0)
He's 60. He's had parkinson's for 9 years, got dianosed when I was in 1st grade , but his symptoms started in kindergarten. They came in back wards so he was mis diagnosed at first. I know he takes L-Dopa and some other serious medication, but I don't remember the name of it.
I've only posted something one other time before and that was a reply so that probably why you don't know of a post I've done.
polishdan
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Posted 2/14/2011 4:32 AM (GMT 0)
Cheerbabe
9 years is a long time on L-dopa (sinemet). Do you know if his neurologist is a movement disorder specialist? All neurologists are not movement disorder specialists. They specialize in diseases like PD.
It makes a difference. Find out. Let us know.
Dan
Cheerbabe14
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Posted 2/26/2011 4:27 PM (GMT 0)
Dan,
Not very sure. If it helps I know they recommended the surgery for dad, but he didn't want it.
polishdan
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Posted 2/26/2011 6:08 PM (GMT 0)
Cheerbabe
Do you mean deep brain surgery?
Dan
Cheerbabe14
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Posted 2/26/2011 6:27 PM (GMT 0)
I guess. Didn't really know there was more than one???
polishdan
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Posted 2/27/2011 3:26 AM (GMT 0)
That is the only PD surgery that I know of.
Dan
Cheerbabe14
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Posted 2/27/2011 5:11 PM (GMT 0)
Me to. They recommended it, but dad said no.
fooshoho
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Posted 3/3/2011 5:15 AM (GMT 0)
I'm new on here and a little bit confused when people talk about
"dying from Parkinson's". My understanding of the disease is that it is not a terminal disease. My Dad has had Parkinson's for 17 years now and for the first time ever a neurologist told my sister and I that he is "end stage Parkinson's". I assumed based on my understanding that Parkinson's is not a fatal disease, that he meant that there is no medicine or procedure that will continue to be effective in relieving the symptoms of PD. For example, he has been on Sinemet (Carbidopa/Levodopa) for the entire time and it seems to have completely destroyed his body's ability to produce it's own dopamine. I asked the neurologist what the disease will eventually look like in my Dad when no medicine will work at all and he said he will basically not be able to move. This is how I remember my great-grandfather, who unlike my father, had late-onset Parkinson's. He simply just sat motionless in his chair and stared blankly into space. This was in the early 70's before Sinemet was widely used and I imagine he may not have been taking any medications. Even so, I do not believe my great-grandfather died from Parkinson's. I believe he died from congestive heart failure. When people in this forum say "die from Parkinson's", do they actually mean die from the physical disease process of Parkinson's or do they mean from complications caused by the disease?
polishdan
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Posted 3/3/2011 5:40 AM (GMT 0)
fooshoho
PD of itself is not terminal. What Port Mac, who started this thread, was referring to is takng his own life.
Dan
yekkimo
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Posted 3/3/2011 1:40 PM (GMT 0)
fooshoho,Technically speaking any disease may be terminal.Jack Daniels of whiskey fame died from complications brought on by a broken toe.Most pd er's do not die from parkinson's disease.Many simply die of old age with it.Everyone with this disease shows different symptoms,and different responses to it.Some sail thru life with little complications other don't.
All of us will age,and eventuually die.All we can change is our own attitude on life,and how we cope.I've been fighting this disease for at least 13 years,and have gone from 53 to 66.Age itself is slowing me down,but I'll carry on as long as I can fishing and visiting the grands.Life changes for all of us a new adventure is around every corner,and i will fight this disease till I die of natural causes.
I wish you all the best,and don't throw away your dancing shoes.Ed
xxxyyyzzz
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Posted 3/4/2011 3:16 PM (GMT 0)
thanx for the much needed dose of optimism.
xxxyyyzzz
tt.uk
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Posted 11/28/2011 2:33 AM (GMT 0)
hi everyone, my mom diagnized by PD like a year ago. as i read from the forum the first year of the diease can be a reference of how it may be in the future stages and the length of the stages. last few weeks sshe started to talk too much in her sleep (even hits) and today she found it very hard to keep her pee til the loo and wet herself a bit. i cant tell her mood symtomps as she has always been an unhappy person (ironic that my father has been telling her for ages that she might have lack of dopamin,wise man.) her shaking seems to be there only when she is stressed or upset. and she is on azilect. i really dont know if she is having slow progress or fast. she is 63 now.
i feel terrible, i just moved to uk 1.5 years ago (she lives in turkey) and she got diagnized 5months later, until now i didnt realize how serious effects and this period could be for her, so i am considering leaving my life in the uk behind and moving back home.
tt.uk
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Posted 11/28/2011 2:37 AM (GMT 0)
and also wanted to add that: all of ur words, sentences and feelings made me understand her a lot more better and thank u all for being so honest and helpful.
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