Active waiting

Hi group, some good news. 

Age 59, very healthy
Psa 2007 3.2
Psa fall 2008 4.9 two weeks later 4.4
11/2008 biopsy, T1c, gleason 3+3=6 low-volume prostrate carcinoma
1 of 12 samples malignant
Left lateral mid .05mm (5%)
CT scan negative
Consultation 12/2008 decided active waiting (diet) while researching options.
Followup PSA in March 2009

PSA MARCH 23 is  3.5!!!  DRE no growth.

I assume this is good news, since it didn't go up.

I changed my diet a little, i was already eating pretty healthy. I added sal palmento, and garlic tabs.  Have added Green tea instead of coffee.  More tomatoes, cabbage, and broccoli. Drinking v8 juice

Doc says we can still wait and see, but of course PSA isnt the only indicator,  another PSA late summer and if still under control another biopsy in November.

Still very active, gym , racquetball, yoga, or walks, almost every day.

Happy with life, keeping positive, great relationship with my wife.

Glad i decided to wait, best to all of you

Barney

 

I should have said there is not a second "r" in prostate.

Thanks guys,

Thanks for the correction on the spelling.

Thanks John for the advice about the color doppler image as a base line. I'll talk to the doc about this.

 

Wishing you the best Barney, looks like the watchful waiting is working for you thus far, and I hope it stays that way for you.

David in SC

Thanks for all of the information

So if the PSA is getting lower , what exactly does that mean.

Hey Barney ...

Who is this guy Sal Palmetto you are talking about ??

Didn't he play short stop for the Dodgers in the 1920s ???

Good ol Sal! and his twin brother Saw Palmetto!

have a good one ...

jim

BRB -- only we comment on spelling if it is a funny inadvertent one ;-) Lighthearted stuff on a serious board.

Also, I too had almost identical stats as you -- 1 of 12 -- 5% -- Same age even. I was all set to do Watchful Waiting, plus I had a plan to try the Marshall Protocol for a year or two, which might or might not have had some effect on prostate -- based on anecdotal reports. And would have let my Uro have at it with the needles every 6 months or so just to keep him happy. But one thing I did have was that whompin 110 cc (or 150cc by the sonogram) enlarged prostate -- no fun goin' all the time and only piddling etc, even with flomax. So I caved in and went for the surgery. My poor wife had been worrying in silence up til then and was so relieved that I decided on surgery. Dumb-bunny me for not even noticing she was worrying all the time. Not too many regrets going the route I have, although I'd be having fun! fun! fun! with daddy's T-bird instead of the ED-sel I have now. But we'll get back there in time I am sure.

If your PSA ges lower it could be because of the lab. It most likely means that the cancer is not growing or that you don't have a tumor, but just indolant cancer clusters.
I just read a post on another site yesterday from a guy with silimar stats as yours. He had surgery and nothing showed up on his post pathology. The slides were reviewed twice and still no PC. His Doctor told him he had "vanishing cancer" and the original cancer had just vanished. When I told my Onco doc about it he just about fell over laughing. Some doctors will make up anything to cover their mistakes. Many G6 less than 5% are not tumors, but indolant cancer clusters that most men over 50 have and if biopsied enough will show up. I feel so bad for this individual and others that are treated for something that will never hurt them.
JohnT

"Vanishing Cancer"
OK, now I have heard it all!

Thanks for the great information.

Wow, !!
Unnecessary treatment is exactly what i'm trying to avoid.

Great to have a site where we can be proactive and check options. I guess the days of relying solely on the "experts" are long gone.

Thanks for sharing
Barney