Pomegranate Juice Delays PSA Doubling

Okay...I will be one of the nay-sayers

I don't have any documents or studies or whatever to back this up. But honestly, I believe that any diet that is healthy is the key to improving the immune system...which is what actually slows the growth of any cancer. And I believe in the study with mice, the amount of promegranate juice that was given would exceed the typical amount consumed by the average person in a single day (weight to amount ratio).

Eating healthy is the key to living a healthy life.

Just sayin....

Les (LV-TX),

Eating healthy is an important key to living a healthy life. Unfortunately, it's too simplistic of an approach to address the crap that happens anyhow. Pomegranate juice or extract for PC patients is a "supplement" for those who seek to supplement their diet with additional efforts to combat the crap that has already happened.

Will it stop or reverse cancer growth? No. Is there statistically significant test results which shows that it slows cancer progression? Yes.

There are some individuals concerned about post-treatment PC progression who will read the peer-reviewed medical journals but will still make a conscious choice NOT to believe that this supplemental step will bring a few more of the odds into their favor. I suppose that some will simply not believe the goofy white-coated researchers who write all those documents and studies.

There are a lot of guys on this site who are concerned about PC progression after primary treatment...know anyone that fit that profile?  I think it's important to educate them in threads like this on how they can supplement their odds favorably. If they choose not to take that step for whatever reason, then they do so with the knowledge of the published, statistically significant research that is already in place (and more, including a Level III study, still underway).

Are you familiar with Dr Charles Myers? Myers, who strongly advocates a healthy diet to fight PC, sometimes "prescribes" OTC pomegranate extract to PC patients to fight progression. Besides being an advanced case PC patient himself, he is also considered by many to be one of the leading PC experts...others, however, may consider him simply another goofy white-coated researcher.

Casey...not to dicker with you in anyway. You are correct in that supplements (in general) are excellent when the bodies ability to produce the same elements curve downward as we age. But the taking of supplements when not needed can produce the opposite of the desired effect. There are studies that support that statement as well.

Bottom line...if you feel it is worthwhile...then drink or take all the supplemental promegranate you can consume. Will you benefit anymore or anyless than a healthy diet that is the question. At least by eating a healthy diet, I know that more than just my prostate cancer will benefit from the results. Personally, I will worry more about my heart, my lungs and my feable brain than this pestilence, because in the end game that is what I will die from...not the cancer.

I will still remain the nay sayer and only take those supplements that are recommended by my physician. After all a "supplement" is designed to supplement what the body no longer can produce.

One thing that worries me about these supplement discussions, and one I don't know if has been answered in this particular one, is the dangers of the supplement merely reducing, masking or covering up the psa reading, but not actually stopping cancer cells growth, giving a false positive and allowing the cancer to continue to grow and get a foothold, all while that patient is blissfully unaware of what is happening. Not saying it happens with pom juice, but I know there's other things in the supplement field that has been found to do exactly that- masking or causing a drop in PSA results while the cancer continues to grow. Maybe I'm just a worrier and party pooper, but.................