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Posted 6/1/2011 11:56 AM (GMT 0)
I will paraphrase some from a reading on this, rarely does anyone think about the liver, which seems incredible because it is such a powerful organ and is easily improved. In deed the simplest and most effective way to cleanse the blood stream and thus take the load off the immune system, is by improving liver function. The liver is the largest organ in the body and has an enormous amount of blood flowing through it every minute of our lives.  It can remove or filter:  toxic matter such as dead cells, microorganisms, chemicals, drugs and particulate debris from the blood system. So can filter through its Kupffer cells (breakdown) bacteria, fungi, viruses and parasites from the blood stream. skull

You can do things like detoxify your body by various means, such as fasting, cleansing the bowels, fibre mixtures and other things might help like using milk thistle (silymarin capsules), Dr. Hulda Clark home remedy flushes (simple to do), also foods that help:  eggs and cruciferous vegetables e.g. broccoli, cabbage, brussel sprouts, cauliflower, raw garlic, onions, leaks and shallots all good sources of natural sulphur compounds to enhance detoxification. cool

As crazy as the Dr. Clark liver and kidney flushes concept may seem to others, it does get results and plenty of good testimonials and costs very little to do and is not unsafe to do.

My brother had high blood pressure issues and didn't like having to take meds all the time and decided to do this and got blood work tests before and directly right after doing these combined flushes. He also saw what came out of him  (Dr. Clark's photos on there website, google for the whole enchiladad). His blood pressure went back into normal ranges, he felt much better and other blood parameters showed improvement, his doc was also impressed and kind of in disbelief. www.squidoo.com/huldaclarklivercleanse   (also google her site etc.), she is not without some controversies, but on both sides too.

 I also did this flush once and was amazed how much better I felt directly afterwards. I will plan on doing it again in the near future. It might also help remove stones (see website for evidence) from liver and/or kidney and without surgery  (go figure), there is some evidence of that on the website.  Anyway you can disregard this flushing concept if you like, I am not here to argue anything.

The better your whole system is, the better you will feel and process the good and the bad things going through your system. I think it has value even for cancer patients, not as any type of cure but assistance program concept or keeping you further away from added 'aliens' in effect attacking your body. (lol)  The stronger your whole system the better off you would be, which alot of PCa patient's die of heart diseases and other things, along the way. We have only one liver and it purifies the blood stream (I guess that is a clue). :-)  

Feel free to jump in with more on such things...

Post Edited (zufus) : 6/1/2011 6:10:31 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 6/1/2011 12:07 PM (GMT 0)
What exactly does a liver cleansing entail?
JT
Posted 6/1/2011 12:19 PM (GMT 0)
She suggests two slightly different protocols, one for kidney flush and one for liver flushing. They have some overlapp, I am going to mention some of the products used, but not the amounts and from my lousy memory, some of the things you will use in this program:

EVO olive oil, grapefruit juice or similar, perhaps black walnut hull tincture, maybe cloves and things like that....it is on her website in a detailed proceedure as to how much of what and time frame. I can tell you that the next day you better be at home and near the throne, do not be out and about (big clue)...you will be amazed at what level you will be cleaned out.

My brother and his wife have done this with significant results, so it may be well worth a try. Especially cause we have a lifetime of built up trash in your whole system, in effect your are plugged up with parasites and garbage. Detoxifying in various ways is your friend. (-:
Posted 6/1/2011 9:01 PM (GMT 0)
Those of us who have had a colonoscopy know what a good flushing of the digestive system is like -- maybe a spinoff is that it also flushes the liver?

As for flushing the kidneys, surely a good way to do that is to drink lots of fluid? Beer, if you have nothing better but I'm not sure whether that would do the liver any good :-)
Posted 6/2/2011 6:32 PM (GMT 0)

Piano said...
Those of us who have had a colonoscopy know what a good flushing of the digestive system is like -- maybe a spinoff is that it also flushes the liver?

As for flushing the kidneys, surely a good way to do that is to drink lots of fluid? Beer, if you have nothing better but I'm not sure whether that would do the liver any good :-)

 

I hear ya.....I felt like I flushed out my entire intestines with the stuff I had to dring for my colonoscopy.....like drinking a bottle of cooking oil...LOL

Posted 6/2/2011 6:38 PM (GMT 0)
Suzanne Sommers book "Knockout" has instructions for 1 liver flush protocol.
The person takes a very acidic product for 5 days. (The product is so acidic it can take enamel off of teeth.)
On the 5th day the person takes Epson salts and olive oil. I don't remember the order.
When the person has a bowel movement, there are supposed to be gall stones passed.
There are variations using cider vinegar as a milder acid.
I'd be afraid to try it.
Posted 6/2/2011 7:56 PM (GMT 0)
No thank you. Even Andrew Weil says her studies have no scientific back-up.
Posted 6/2/2011 8:09 PM (GMT 0)
Every time someone suggests her book my first thought is "Yea, I'm going to take advice on cancer from Chrissy?" I know she's probably nothing like her character but still . . . . . . . . . .
Posted 6/7/2011 5:17 AM (GMT 0)
Gentlemen

Many of us here are aware i am sure that chinese medicine is of great value and hes succeeded in myriad instances when western medicine failed. My understanding is that a cornerstone of their therapies is liver health. That is what they treat first, no matter what ails you, because if your liver is in a funk, other treatments will not be as effective as they can be.

My 2 cents.

AS for me i plan to build back up and manage my system with eastern medicines and proper nutrition, but zap my prostate with a bunch of Gy's. Hope that is a yin/yang that works for me. Cheers!
Posted 2/28/2012 10:59 AM (GMT 0)
I have personally tried the liver flush twice and can attest to its great benefits on my health. I went from having stabbing pain to my mid section, getting sick every other week, and having hives on the palms of my hands and soles of my feet, and having my hair fallout to totally healed not only not having none of the symptoms, but not getting sick at all even if everyone in the office is sick or in my house if the whole family gets a cold now I am the only one that does not get sick, I am planning to do it a third time, but after the second time I did it I felt so good that I have not had to. I share my experience because, to me the proof is in the pudding. I even had my doctor ask me what the hell I had done, when I explained it to him, he just laughed and said well whatever you did you have my permission to go get drunk with your buddies, you have nothing in your liver is completely clean,, It works, it works, does exatcly what is says it does , liver flush, and what machine does not run better when its fliter is clean ? Same principle here, your body works better when it has a clean filter, to clean your blood.
Posted 2/28/2012 1:27 PM (GMT 0)
I used to fast once a year for a week. Once I went 3 weeks with nothing but water. I felt good after I did it. I figured it kind of gave everything a break. I have not done it in a while, but I think I'll give the flush a try.

Surfer, what did you use for the flush?
Posted 2/28/2012 2:14 PM (GMT 0)
This sounds like something I would be reluctant to do without first discussing it with my primary physician.

It may or not be harmless, but it just doesn't sound like something I would recommend carte blanche...certain individuals may have other underlying physical conditions that might make doing something like this unadvisable or even dangerous. 

Suzanne Somers certainly convinced me with her ThighMaster commercials, but I would prefer to take medical advice from my own personal physician.

This article on the Livestrong.com site should make anyone think twice before undertaking such a process without physician approval:  http://www.livestrong.com/article/136910-what-are-dangers-liver-cleanse/

Am I the only one here who's uncomfortable with promoting this kind of folkloric medicine on this site?

 

Post Edited (clocknut) : 2/28/2012 7:21:30 AM (GMT-7)

Posted 2/28/2012 3:07 PM (GMT 0)
Clocknut, you are not alone.

I do respect my liver. As such, I read the fine print when the podiatrist was trying to get me to take systemic poison with a 1% chance of causing liver failure and said "no way in heck - I need a functioning liver much more than I need nice toenails" even though one of them is to the point of getting painful if left to itself. It may be the most effective way to reach toenail fungus, but I'll use the "less effective" methods that don't have such bad odds. It's not as if it was cancer...
Posted 2/28/2012 3:27 PM (GMT 0)
Random,

Send me an email.  My R. N. wife has some advice regarding your toenails that is just as effective, poses no risk to the liver or your wallet, and which is routinely advised by the doctors with whom she works.

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