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Posted 10/2/2012 9:27 PM (GMT 0)

Hi guys, I'm new to this forum but have been reading extensively to better understand the issue of injections, Bimix, Trimix, etc.  I will be undertaking injections soon and I have gleaned an enormous amount of information from this site.  Thanks to all for your time and contributions.

I found the following thread that is a compilation of threads containing excellent information on the subject of needles, auto-injectors, med ratios, etc, but the threads were all created back in 2007/2008 and I am looking to see if there is any updated information for 2012.

https://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=35&m=1827385

Many of the posts are confusing because a lot of guys incorrectly interchange units of measurement (ml, mg, mcg, cc, etc) and so I can't seem to find a straight answer.

Would you gentlemen please be kind enough to help me out with answers to the following questions:

  • What are the correct units of measurement for each ingredient of Bimix/Trimix? (ml /mg / mcg / cc)
  • What are the average amounts for each ingredient of Bimix/Trimix?
  • Have any dry-mix versions been developed for these meds or do these still require refrigeration?
  • As to an auto-injector, which brand/model do you guys recommend?
  • Is the needle in the auto-injector adjustable for depth?
  • How do you determine the correct depth of measurement in an auto-injector?
  • I have read to inject as close to the base of the penis as possible, whereas other say inject at the half way point of the length.  Which is better?

Thanks in advance for your responses!

Posted 10/2/2012 11:27 PM (GMT 0)
Welcome to the site. Hope you get useful info to help you move to the next step in the ED battle.

The link you post is still accurate, as far as timeliness. There's been no big changes in what is available or any new ways of doing it. I'll attempt to answer your questions, though.

What are the correct units of measurement for each ingredient of Bimix/Trimix? (ml /mg / mcg / cc)
the measurements are mg per 1ml of volume, except for the alprostadil which is mcg per 1ml of volume

What are the average amounts for each ingredient of Bimix/Trimix?
Bimix- 30mg papaverine/1mg phentolamine per 1ml of sterile water
Trimix- 30mg papaverine/1mg phentolamine/either 10 or 20 mcg alprostadil per 1 ml of sterile water

Have any dry-mix versions been developed for these meds or do these still require refrigeration?
I am not aware of any dry mix bimix or trimix. There is a gel based trimix that is available, but it is costly.

As to an auto-injector, which brand/model do you guys recommend?
Can't answer that one, but there's only a couple brands, so any will work just as well, I would suppose.

Is the needle in the auto-injector adjustable for depth?
The auto-injector's purpose is to inject quickly and unseen rather than to adjust the amount of needle penetration, I think. The injector uses a common insulin syringe.

How do you determine the correct depth of measurement in an auto-injector?
Most needles are either 1/2 inch length or 5/16 inch length. The purpose of the auto-injector is to inject the drug quickly and unseen, not to determine the needle length to be injected. (I think)

I have read to inject as close to the base of the penis as possible, whereas other say inject at the half way point of the length. Which is better?
The most described point in the literature and self-help site is to inject midway between the head and the base, nearer the base if possible ( from halfway back to 3/4 ways back, and at the 2 o'clock or 10 o'clock position. You do not want to inject completely back to the base. There's a couple of good links in the links post you mentioned that will show you the correct method, with illustrations. If you can't find it or have further questions, let us know.

I hope I've covered your questions, sorry if I can't be 100% clear about auto-injectors, as I don't have any first hand knowledge of them.

Post Edited (James C.) : 10/3/2012 8:51:50 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 10/3/2012 2:39 AM (GMT 0)
James, thank you so much for your excellent responses. It clears up a LOT of confusion for me on the subject of dosages.

I note you are the author of the link I referenced in my post above. Your many well-informed contributions to this site are invaluable. A BIG thank you, sir.

On the matter of injection depth:

I have read on several posts that injection precision is one of the keys to success in terms of achieving more and longer erections with reduced scarring, pain, etc. I have read repeatedly wherein men have discovered that the depth of the injection is as important as the 9/3 or 2/10 position. Some have referenced that an auto-injector can in fact be adjusted for depth for better results. I was hoping to get more precise information on that subject.

Hopefully, others that use auto-injection can answer that question for me.

Again, I thank you for your generous time and assistance on this board.
Posted 10/3/2012 2:54 PM (GMT 0)
I just noticed I didn't get one answer completely right. The answer is mg per 1ml of water volume. That's the strength or ratio, common dispensing sizes are 5 or 10 ml vials.
Posted 1/17/2013 1:41 AM (GMT 0)
This is my first post , have been lurking for about a week . I have an appt. with my Uro. the 6th of Feb. to start injections .

4-d asked all the questions I was going to ask .....Thanks Man ,

But I haven't decided on Bi-mix or Tri-mix yet .

Post Edited (Chigh) : 1/24/2013 3:16:00 PM (GMT-7)

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