The Natural History of Penile Length After Radical Prostatectomy

Here's a new study that suggests that loss of penile length is recovered by 48 months after surgery. Some of us lose a lot more than 1cm that they claim is average. I'll have willie read it and see if that makes him get longer. I have my doubts. But it is good to have researchers address the issue.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23102441

Nellie

I've been stretching and pulling the little guy but at no avail.

The problem with this sort of study is that it is . . .

a) very difficult to get a consistent measurement (ie. does "maximum manual traction" mean something different when measured by a technician wearing black leather and studs?) and

b) difficult to control for normal changes with age in, say, the thickness of the prepubic fat pad. Were the schlongs getting longer or were the pubes getting bonier?

My take away from the study came from this bit:

the study said...
Erectile function was a predictor for early return of penile length

This suggests that until there is some progress on the ED front it's probably best to continue with my new hobby.

At least you had the guts to look, took me three days to get up the nerve. Then another day to find it, had to trace the hose backwards.

Another one of those PC issues that cover the full spectrum. My uro surgeon at the time of my surgery, 2008, explained his view of the alledged penis shortening syndrome. Still makes sense to me.

Before you lose your prostate, your bladder is held at two points. Once the prostate is gone, you are down to one mounting point, so to speak. The other factor is at the all-critical bladder neck to urehtra connection. He said depending on the "new" angle of the bladder (which is now on just one mounting point), it's possible, in the flaccid state to appear shorter. It's not because the penis is shorter, but its due to the weight of the bladder pulling at its new angle against the urehtra. He said it shouldn't make any difference with the errect size.

I can only use me as an example, I don't look at other men's private parts. For the first 3 years after surgery, my surgeon was correct. My flacid penis appeared much smaller (did I measure it: no, are you nuts?). But errect, same guy as before.

In the past year, I am now coming on the 4 year mark since surgery, the flacid size appears the same as pre-surgery, and the erect size (according to my wife of 38 years, she swears this is true - not trying to make me feel good) is as big if not bigger than before. I accept that it is at least the pre-surgery size.

So using me as one case, and I was in the fortunate few club of having zero ED, either prior to PC or post PC, my uro/surgeon was correct. Perhaps from year 3 to year 4 for me, final healing and adjustments took place. All I know, is it looks the same, very firm errections. The only think I notice different, and perhaps its an aging thing (I am 60 now, and have been through medical hell for the past 4 years in particular), is that I can't "think myself" hard as easily as I could in the past. For one thing, I am not sitting around thinking about sex all the time, nor looking at dirty pictures on-line (not judgemental, just not interested).

Not saying I can't think it hard, more of a rarity now. But just one touch from my other half, and its jump to attention time, every time.

With the study that prompted this thread, sometimes I am amazed and how and why a lot of studies ever get off the ground. I would think there are better uses of a person's mind than that, lol.

david in sc

The day in the hospital - the nurses kept stopping by to check on Pee Wee and the cath.... The general jest:

"Nothing to see here - move on."

Since there are several different "sizes" in play here, I can break down my experience thusly:

stretched flaccid size with maximally depressed prepubic fat -- not sure I've ever felt the need to measure this. Don't much care. Reb suggested that having it measured sounded like "torture". Apparently his mental image of the technician was not the cute redhead that I imagined. But, anyway, this size is not an issue.

flaccid size -- never paid much attention, either before or after surgery. Going into surgery I did worry about possible shrinkage enough that I mentioned to my wife that I planned to continue to pee standing up whatever happened. So far it doesn't seem to be an issue but cold weather is coming. That will be my next challenge.

erect size -- dunno. There is something like a one in five possibility that I will be able to report on that early in 2015 once the nerves have healed and the two years of Lupron have worn off. In the meanwhile...

VED pumped size -- seems sufficient. The limiting factor seems to be not so much erectile capacity but the availability of skin. The pediatrician who did me sixty years ago seems to have left more on the left than the right so I get a bit of a curve at full inflation. It's hard to compare to my previous status since my old erections did not resemble an overstuffed purple sausage. But the size seems comparable.

Trimix injected size -- again, ok, but also still hard to compare. Trimix inflates the shaft but not the head giving a somewhat conical, tapered erection. Seems about the right length and nice and straight.

Reb,

Ub Iwerks was Disney's best animator starting out and Mickey Mouse is, arguably, more his creation that Walt's. The salacious aspects of that cartoon -- Mickey's wieners standing up for Minnie the Shimmy Dancer, for instance -- were not accidental. When your granddad saw Mickey spanking his wiener he had pretty much the same reaction as you do today.

I had in mind something more like this:

youtu.be/CNG8GYrh1mg?t=1m12s

I'm still ROTF*** over the name "chico". Well done Sunbird.

More great news about what I am facing.....
(Can't ***** too much.....you are all there).
I'm not Gene Simmons, but at least my tongue still works.... LOL

Chris