ASPARAGUS - Who would have thought - PC is G.O.N.E..

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So, you have been diagnosed with Prostate Cancer...
There is a suggestion that "there is some time , to decide and consider alternatives".
You have read as much as you can and you have accepted that all radical treatment, carries with it, radical responses and dangers..

I bring you a positive and real story about Tony G.....
Having an issue with passing water, the GP recommended a specialist opinion.
The result was that in May 2012, a TRUS Bx. revealed a full blown G6 PC.
Stunned by the result , TONY did nothing (interventionist) for a time, until his "Team" suggested evaluation for BT.
Fortunately, Tony did not qualify for BT.. I say fortunately, because earlier this year (2013) he read a claim that humble Asparagus, could aide with the treatment of PC, ..

Knowing the effects of radiation, Tony was half-relieved that he did not have to make the choice.
Faced with no other options, the Team suggested RP as the only remaining choice.

Tony, reminded the team that he was taking humble Asparagus, and that he wanted to know if it was working.
Naturally, the team declared the concept of cure via Asparagus, as a joke, and recommended another Bx.

So ,back in May 2012, the Bx report declared that of the 15 cores tested, 6 cores contained PC.. ONLY the Left Mid, was cancer free..
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Then on 03/June/2013 a second Bx was undertaken, and this time, to prove the dire need for intervention, 24 samples were taken.

When the results came back, the warning of the Bx suggested.. "..Focal Atypical Glands Suspicious for Malignancy..:" and otherwise, Benign Glands and PIN..

In a little over 1 year, he had gone from confirmed G6 PC, to being "Suspicious for Malignancy" and all the Udoc's could say was.. "you can believe whatever you wish"

Tony just took cans of Asparagus, and "Vitamised" them into a disgusting liquid, and simply took two tablespoons Morning and Night.

Asparagus contains a strong Anti-Oxidant, and perhaps one that is unique in it's action on PC..
Irrespective, through taking Asparagus Puree for just three months, and to go from Confirmed PC to a state of Suspicion, is a very dramatic change.
Needless to say, Tony will continue with his yucky self-treatment, until the next Bx, possibly in a year's time..

As any doctor will declare, EVERY single cancer is totally unique, and not everyone will respond the same way, but if time IS on your side, then it would be worth giving it a try, and you can "believe whatever you want to....

PS - I have copies of both Biopsy Reports, and so this is more than a "heard from a friend" comment.

PPS - for the next few days (until 20th July), you might think to go to

(Link removed by Moderator Tudpock18 -- per Rule 4, no links to advertising permitted)

and hear the comments about conventional cancer treatments.. and about your wonderful FDA..
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Post Edited By Moderator (Tudpock18) : 7/15/2013 5:35:59 AM (GMT-6)

BuiDoi, I removed the link because it violated Rule #4 re "links to advertising".

Jim

This is BuiDoi's second post about the miracle asparagus cure. The other one was about three weeks ago --

www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=35&m=2779701&g=2779731#m2779731

There was some discussion there, for those who want to catch up on this breaking story.

If you leave out the asparagus part this is an Active Surveillance success story. TRUS biopsies are very unreliable on the negative side with low volume cancer. The fact that a subsequent biopsy missed the cancer isn't particularly remarkable. But it does tend to indicate that the cancer isn't growing very fast which tends to support continuation of surveillance, and, I suppose, continuation of his canned asparagus slurry if he likes it.

In an unrelated note, researchers have found that placebos work better if they have side effects. I would expect the taste of the asparagus puree and the odor of his urine after a few weeks would make for a formidable placebo effect after a while. On the other hand, the bergamot pills might smell lovely. Bergamot is the flavorant used to make Earl Gray tea.

Most of the above , is appreciated..
In case it missed some small minds, plunk, the whole point was to point out that with lower grade disease, there are possibilities to correct the situation.
It's a shame the reference to Dr. Burzynski was deleted, as it contained some very interesting information on what issue, WE have, in gaining help with this disease and all diseases, when you find that the FDA is responsible to the and for the Pharma-Companies, and NOT to the citizens..
In the Dr. Mercola presentation (google it) he summarises the info-mercial (if you prefer that terminology), as..
Story at-a-glance
Burzynski—Cancer is Serious Business details the struggles and victories of Dr. Burzynski and his groundbreaking cancer treatment, and explores the current status of Antineoplastons’ clinical testing
Antineoplastons are peptides and derivatives of amino acids that act as genetic switches. They turn off the oncogenes that cause cancer, and turn on or activate tumor suppressor genes—genes that fight cancer
Dr. Burzynski’s treatment holds the first cures ever for brainstem glioma, a fatal type of brain cancer that typically affects children and young adults
Japanese researchers have spent 27 years independently testing Antineoplastons and reproducing Dr. Burzynski’s findings, leading them to conclude that the effectiveness of Antineoplastons is “obviously not anecdotal anymore”
A group of patients and patient advocates have launched a campaign to have Antineoplastons accepted worldwide as a “standard of care” for the treatment of cancer..

Given that he is the ONLY know person to cure certain cancers, you would have thought that there would be folk, breaking his door down to encourage him, whereas they have shut him down..

NO - he does not save everyone..

The point is that cancer takes many forms and many believe it comes from a virus that we MAY have been accidentally given... SV40..

WHY is there, SOoo many falling with cancer in our age groups?? Is it in the water, the food we eat or something else.

Now if it can take 50 years to exhibit as cancer, then surely there are ways of preventing the genetic mutations from taking hold.. I speculate that Burzynski found a non destructive and clinical way of starving the cancer's growth.
I speculate that there are other ways also, and certain foods and natural healthy living, that MIGHT just add to the ability to fight cancer..

So, I repeat... If you have a lower grade cancer developing, then WHY would you NOT give it a go, and then, keep up that healthy living, instead of dwelling in this dark place, checking if your's is bigger than mine.. Vit-D and and and Anti-Oxidants/BioFlavones

Ages ago I told you of another friend with "Mobile Phone Cancer" and was given months to live and he self-treated with Anti-Oxidants via OPC and his cancer is G.O.N.E.. Now the MRI does not lie..

Yes , I did a preliminary report on Tong, who is likely now reading this stuff.. Ask him and his specialists , what they believe and I know what the answer will be, because it's the same mob that has done me, and other family and friends..
This post on Tony was presented with the actual Bx results included..

One of the interesting issues in that "Info-Mercial" as you would like to view it, is the orchestrated "Skeptics" campaign to get Burzynski "Taken Down"..
Those who have been saved cannot report their results without a phalanx of knocking...
Why would people go to that trouble, unless they had a vested interest and were being "organised" to cast doubt..

The FDA ran tests in order to prove Burzynski wrong, but showed him to be right, and they are Pissed Off, because the Pharma's don't like the thought that there might be a way of control, and possibly cure for a likely introduced cancer-epidemic..

Keep an open mind in this dark place..

[quote]Here’s where men like BuiDoi’s friend expose themselves to higher risk for prostate cancer over-treatment…

Here's where a tremendous number of us come unstuck. Do WE expose ourselves or are we exposed..?

The CANCER profession are so bloody keen to Hack, Poison or Burn out our cancers that they loose sight (I feel) of the reality..
Our problem, as men and individuals , is that WE are not the experts and these other professionals claim to us - "You is gona DIE"...
I gave in to the dire warnings and I got cut and it has changed SOOooo much of what was considered "Normal"..
I gave in despite actually lowering MY PSA reading via taking similar Anti-Oxidants as found in Asparagus.. I will never know if I would have done a "Tony", and found my cancer G.O.N.E. and then spent the rest of my life being careful.. (as I will anyway)
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Post Edited (BuiDoi) : 7/15/2013 11:28:47 PM (GMT-6)

Thanks for your observations, SpecialLady.
Clearly, you Father's position was outside the scope of MY suggestion. METS, is hardly low grade..

To me, the real issue with Doctors is what hope they can offer..
There are childhood cancers for which there is NO HOPE, only delay and if your MD was actually producing some results, then surely THAT would be a positive..

What would you do....
You are offered conventional treatment that is going to cost many tens of thousands to undertake Radiation and Chemo that was known to be only life extending (by months),
Then the radical alternative was offered with a cheaper program with an actual proven success rate of CURE, of say 20%..
So which one would you choose..? I know what I would do..
20% chance of cure (5 year survival) would win hands-down over pure Palliative Treatment...

Anyway - that is NOT the issue.

Anecdotal stories like Tony and his Asparagus Puree (AntiOxidants), are one thing..
When it happens a number of times, you just have to start to wonder.
Even if it is 60% mind-over-matter, and 40% BIOLOGY, if it works, then that is a positive..
To then write all of them off, as misdiagnosis or ??? is equally Head-In-The Sand stuff..
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I'd go with Western medicine and the FDA every single time brother, every single time.

This must be pretty well known by now, but it is being suggested that Steve Jobs shortened his own life in his battle with pancreatic cancer, by avoiding conventional treatments in favor of "alternative" treatments.

It is being said that he was a "vegetarian Buddhist" which may have influenced his thinking. It is also reported that when close to the end, he regretted his course of action, and would have pursued more conventional treatment if he could have done it all over again.

One of a number of articles discussing this:

gawker.com/5849543/harvard-cancer-expert-steve-jobs-probably-doomed-himself-with-alternative-medicine

81GyGuy I've wondered if that mistake by Jobs cost him years of life.

Recently two people I came in contact with tried to convince me marijuana could cure me. Another told me baking soda could do it.

I look at these "cures" as being no different than snake oil salesmen.

Gasman, even though I personally agreed with your last comment that had a smiley face, I deleted it so as not to provoke a response from the OP.

Re the link you requested, originally the OP included a link but I deleted it as it was to a site with obvious advertising and promotion. If you really want it, I suspect BuiDoi would send it to you via email.

Jim

I wish they'd have found broccoli cured PCa. Asparagus leaves me gassy.

I agree Casey, after reading the initial post in this thread it was indeed packaged like snake oil out of the trunk of a traveling salesman - unfortunate as it may have had a chance, maybe.....

In fact I thought it was going to get locked; I did come back and decided to put out a few examples of the type of data we here prefer as opposed to the used car salesman junk.

Yeah, I guess we all have agendas. Mine tonight includes pepperoni pizza...back to good diet tomorrow! In the meantime diet and the management of PCa is an important topic. We may have different ways of presenting this and some disagreements...that's ok IMHO.

Just please continue to be respectful of each other .

Thanks,

Jim

Perhaps it is timely to post this link. Take particular note of the cartoon and the later inclusion of "metabolic therapy". I guess we now should add asparagus to the list. Personally, I think that coffee up the khyber is the logical choice.

www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/cancer.html

Bill