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Madchemist
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Posted 9/18/2013 6:08 PM (GMT 0)
I meant i was back in the gym on 12/1/12. 2 months post surgery. Sorry for the typo.
mandjk
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Posted 9/19/2013 8:20 AM (GMT 0)
Hi MC
Thanks for your message which is very encouraging for me.I am keeping my exercise regime up, but due to the shock, not as much as before the news.We are on holiday at the moment and relaxing.Next week I will be back in UK and try to get back to normal.
The good mental attitude is a struggle at the moment as i am having good and bad days.But I understand i have to reach that level asap to help myself.
mandjk
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Posted 9/23/2013 9:23 AM (GMT 0)
got mri scan today and bone scan tomorrow.
I have been experiencing back pain for the last week. It feels like someone has kicked me in my left buttock as its muscular but also in the bone.I wonder if it is a reaction to the biopsy from 4 weeks ago.I do suffer from sciatica but usually only for 2 days. My mind is working overtime that the cancer has spread.Am now going for a swim which usually helps if it is sciatica.Anyone advise me?
Madchemist
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Posted 9/23/2013 1:37 PM (GMT 0)
Take a deep break Mandjk. I remember the same feelings - every time you feel a tweak or pain, immediately the thought is "has the cancer spread?". You can't let your fear control you. As an athlete, I know that random pain can occur at any time. If you tweak a muscle, or do a new excercise you can cause muscle inflammation. Let me ask you this: If the pain you are feeling occurred a year before your cancer diagnosis, would you have thought anything of it? or would you have just chalked it up to maybe exerting yourself a bit too much during a workout? Have positive thoughts brother!
mandjk
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Posted 9/23/2013 8:13 PM (GMT 0)
thanks MD. I see your point and am just being paranoid i know.The pain is no worse this evening.its probably sciatica but not as i normally know it.
mandjk
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Posted 9/27/2013 8:12 AM (GMT 0)
2 weeks since being diagnosed. Now over shock and being positive.
been to gym most days, generally swimming and a bit of cycling. Did a yoga class which was marvellous. Made me so relaxed.
had scans monday and tuesday.pushing for results.
had to cut down on work as some of it is physical.i am feeling tired and lethargic so thats main reason cut back. i am hoping this is because of shock and worry of last 2 weeks and not because there is a chance the cancer has already spread.because of lethargy having to push myself thinking i dont have energy to do things.
overthepond
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Posted 9/27/2013 8:28 AM (GMT 0)
Hi mandjk,
Shock and stress can be totally debilitating and could explain your general lack of energy. It is good that you are continuing to exercise.
Hoping you get your results soon and more information on your biopsy results would really help too – how many cores/percentage of cores/staging etc.
Just hang on to that positive attitude, everything is going to be just fine!!
Susan
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mandjk
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Posted 9/27/2013 8:52 AM (GMT 0)
Hi Sue
I have entered all info in profile but not showing.will have to look a this again and see what i am doing wrong.
psa 4.3, has been 3.7 for previous 3 month blood tests(only had first one 9 months ago).gleeson 3+4.20%. have been on holiday so have not got full report yet.
thanks susan for your messages and support.
mandjk
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Posted 9/30/2013 1:48 PM (GMT 0)
mri and bone scans clear. Got appointment wednesday to discuss choices.either surgery or hormonal treatment. Cant believe how quickly things moving.Alot of complaints about
NHS here in England but if i had gone private it could not have been any quicker.Only just under 3 weeks since diagnosed and 5 weeks since biopsy.
A Yooper
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Posted 9/30/2013 4:17 PM (GMT 0)
Hi mandjk - sorry I'm late in replying on your thread! First off congratulations on your MRI and bone scans coming back clear! And as you've already seen there's lots of guys and gals here that can offer experience, knowledge and support, so welcome.
Earlier on you had commented about
how quickly after treatment you would be able to return to your job. While I can't speak for surgery I can tell you how things went after my LDR Brachytherapy (the same treatment that Susan's hubby had). I had my treatment done on a Friday, and was back to work on the following Monday - although I have a desk job and nothing real physical. For the first couple of weeks I had a 10 pound maximum weight restriction. At two weeks after treatment I was back to doing my daily cardio exercises and at three weeks after treatment I was back to lifting weights.
I too am a G7, but had 9 cores out of 12 come back positive. I also see that we are about
the same age.
With your statistics I believe you have a number of treatment options available. I would simply encourage you to get out there and learn as much as you can about
the various treatments. Then, as you meet with the various medical practitioners be sure you insist on obtaining their specific results after treatment. In addition to addressing the cancer, you'll also want to know about
side effects. When discussing their results be sure that you understand what they mean - for example "continent" to you and I mean NO issues, while to them it may mean "only need 1 pad per day" or "only dripping when straining." Same goes with ED - NO issues to you and I mean just that, while to them it may mean using Viagra/Cialis, pumps or injections. . . In my case I obviously wanted to cure the cancer first and foremost, but at my relatively young age and excellent physical health the concern over potential side effects came in at a really close 2nd!
Please don't feel as though you have to rush into a treatment. With your statistics you have time, and there are no "do-overs" once you have been treated.
Best to you, and let me/us know what we can do to help. As part of my journey I gathered a significant amount of studies, reports and information on understanding PCa, treatment options and results that I would be happy to share with you. If you're interested you can send an e-mail to me by clicking on the envelope below my name "A Yooper" in the upper left corner of this post.
Best to you!
mandjk
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Posted 9/30/2013 4:56 PM (GMT 0)
Hi A Yooper
Thanks for your reply. Dont think i am being offered brachytherapy but i have read about
it. Doing alot of reading at the moment about
various options. Yes i need to take time and make right choice.
Will be in touch.
i could see and feel the tension lift off my shoulders when i heard the scans were clear. Though trying to be positive, i was ready for the worst news.especially getting paranoid with various aches and pains, but now know thats from the stress of it all.
Bohemond
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Posted 9/30/2013 6:49 PM (GMT 0)
mandjk
Welcome and sorry you have to be here. I don't believe anyone else mentioned this as I read through this thread. You should get Dr. Patrick Walsh's Guide to Surviving Prostate Cancer - third edition. It's probably on the shelf in the health section of most book stores (to the extent there are still book stores) and should also be available from most libraries. This is a very thorough and easy to understand overview of what prostate cancer is and what the various treatment options are. It also clearly explains how to understand things like Gleason scores and pathology reports. Be sure to get the third edition because it has the most up-to-date information. Best.
Jim
mandjk
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Posted 9/30/2013 9:47 PM (GMT 0)
thanks Bohemond. Yes i have seen this mentioned on this site before so will try and get it
adjust
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Posted 10/1/2013 2:14 AM (GMT 0)
mandjk, also sorry you need to be here. That is terrific news about
the clear scans. If you can't find a hard copy of Dr. Patrick Walsh's Guide to Surviving Prostate Cancer - third edition, I did see it available on line at amazon for kindle, if that is an option for you (and they do have a free download that allows you to read kindle books on your computer).
My best to you,
overthepond
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Posted 10/1/2013 9:28 AM (GMT 0)
Hi mandjk,
That really is great news that your scans and MRI were clear, it will have been a massive weight off of your shoulders.
Unfortunately the hard work isn’t over yet though, you still have to navigate through the decision making process and please don’t be rushed!
Can I ask, you say you have an appointment tomorrow to discuss your choices - either surgery or hormone therapy. Who is the appointment with? I am just wondering why you haven’t been offered radiation treatment also. Have you had consultations with an oncologist and a radiologist as well as with the surgeon? You should have been given access to all three via the NHS and if you haven’t, ask. As I mentioned in your other thread, the surgeon will tell you that you need surgery, it is what he does and what he believes in and could be it will be the right choice for you but you do need to fully investigate all treatment options at this point before ruling them out. You also say you haven’t been offered Brachy, you won’t be unless you ask to be referred by either the oncologist or the radiologist.
Now I am nagging again …. did you download the ‘toolkit’ yet and read it from cover to cover? It really will help you to understand your diagnosis, the treatment options and the possible side effects. If you haven’t or are having trouble downloading it I have it and can email it to you if you wish, just let me know.
We are indeed blessed having such a fantastic health service here in the UK and, for me personally, I don’t know how I would have gotten through those early days without the amazing support of our Macmillan counsellor!
Continued best to you and do let us know how things go with your consultation tomorrow.
Sending you a hug.
Susan
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mandjk
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Posted 10/1/2013 12:53 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Sue
Thanks for the message.
My tool kit arrived today.
My urologist is on holiday but have spoken to his stand in on the phone.
No i do not have any other appointments as yet.But will arrange.I have been pushing various people since i got the raised psa count so i think that has moved things so quickly.
Tomorrow I am seeing Dr Duffy, one of the surgeons.
mandjk
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Posted 10/2/2013 7:37 PM (GMT 0)
i have 3 options.
Possibly brachtherapy, hormonal or op.
We have both read so much on this subject and already been thinking of the op and thinking about
it more. For me i think it is the best option.
We have already got a few places and surgeons in mind which are fairly close and been recommended. There is one in Manchester that is one of the best in the UK.could possibly have op in 4 weeks.
so much to think about
and moving so fast.am mentally tired. just feel like saying "thats it i 've had enough of this ride, can i get now off please" but i cant.i feel like i am climbing a ladder and when i stop i relax. then i climb another rung and am tired again!
but am lucky that everything moving so quickly here.there is very little waiting
read about
cancer fatigue today.
mandjk
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Posted 10/7/2013 1:44 PM (GMT 0)
made decision today to have lacroyscopic and chosen surgeon.hope to see him in 2 weeks to discuss.will still keep options
open though.but this surgeon is so experienced and trains others in this practice.been recommended.
feel a further weight lifted off shoulders after made decision.
had a great chat with key worker today.he is pleased with my positivity and return to my gym work, which i stopped when i heard the news.
still along way to go though
Michael_T
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Posted 10/7/2013 3:26 PM (GMT 0)
Always a good feeling to make a decision! Good luck and make everyone over here proud! Please keep us posted.
overthepond
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Posted 10/7/2013 4:28 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Mandjk,
Sounds like you have settled on the treatment that feels right for you. It is such a relief.
Now channel all that positive energy into beating the PCa beast and wishing you a speedy recovery.
Do let us know how you get on.
Sending you a hug.
Susan
x
mandjk
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Posted 10/7/2013 4:35 PM (GMT 0)
thank you michael T and Susan.
yes it's amazing how making the decision has made such a difference. just feel am moving forward, another step.
will keep in touch
mandjk
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Posted 10/17/2013 11:21 AM (GMT 0)
2 weeks ago narrowed down my decision to 2 surgeons, one nhs(free) and one private. my key worker said save your money and go to nhs as he was so good. so final decision was to go to nhs and saw surgeon on monday. now my key worker thought i would have op in 2 weeks but surgeon said big waiting list. now 10 weeks!! maybe 6 weeks private. the surgeon said it was doubtful if cancer would spread by then but i want 100% certainty. also i am mentally keyed up for an op now and i want to get this sorted asap so i can be up and about
for the new year.
so went to christies in manchester last night.can do it in 3 weeks. two surgeons will do it and i had read about
them previously. very experienced and stats are good. they specialise in robotic and believe it is ideal for me due to age and my fitness.so now just waiting for a date.
mandjk
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Posted 10/21/2013 7:43 PM (GMT 0)
operation at christies in manchester next tuesday 29th october.they rang me today to see if i could do it. no problem, especially as next date was end of november. am ready to go. 4 weeks ago dreaded thought of it but now just want rid of it and to move on.
having da vinci. very happy with surgeon and hospital.
due to my fitness they say da vinci is perfect for me and will help my recovery.
a shame i have had to go private but nhs waiting list was at least ten weeks.cant wait round and of course always chance cancer could spread by then.but nhs has been very good and quick.only 6 weeks since diagnosed and next week.
overthepond
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Posted 10/22/2013 3:23 PM (GMT 0)
All the very best for next Tuesday and wishing you a speedy recovery.
Susan
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mandjk
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Posted 10/23/2013 2:56 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Susan
Thanks so much for your message. Every bit of support helps. Will keep you informed of how it all goes.
John
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