RobertC said: "Will European health authorities pay much for Provenge treatment?"]
I don't think Provenge will have problem.
Ipilimumab (Yervoy ), immunotherapy for Melanoma have been recommended for use on Britain's state-run health service.The price of a four-dose course of Yervoy, which is recommended only for people who have received prior chemotherapy, is 75,000 pounds = 120,000 $.
RobertC said :" Dendreon is in debt and losing money in the USA" I guess we all got a rude awakening considering the history in the dirty dealings against Provenge that its not about
what is wrong or right but greed and corruption whether we are talking Pazdur M.D.,Von Eschenbach M.D. FDA, BP, Milken.....you just name them......the almighty buck before good medicine and patient welfare first and foremost. Too bad for humanity. Sad to say but a very screwed up world we live in.
Tragedy of Provenge always will associate for me with this photo of 3 good friends who plaid and I believe continue to play crucial role to limit access to this revolutionary treatment to PC patients:
www.mikemilken.com/photos.taf?photo=116 Those of us who know
the SCIENCE behind Provenge know that patients must receive and it should be if the patient's BEST INTERESTS are followed. That's right. If you want to hit him with the BEST treatment to keep him alive as long as possible so hopefully he dies from something else!
In recent Conference of European Society for Medical Oncology ( ECCO 2013) the most sound message was:
right of every patient w/ cancer to have the most appropriate treatment & care for their disease.
I hope Europe will do it right and many PC patients will benefit from Provenge.
RobertC said:" Will another company have to come forward to partner on the commercialization of Provenge in Europe?"At first Company has manufacture partner that will make Provenge: PharmaCell, The Netherlands.
I more convince now it will be no partner for selling drug, it will be ''dirty" buy out or company will be driven to bankruptcy. It will be miracle if Dendrion will stay independent.
What will happened: or Provenge will become foundation of care for HRPC ( after the biggest robbery buy out in history ) or it will be put on the shelf like Bexxar therapeutic for lymphoma, by GlaxoSmithKline ( stop revolutionary treatment).
journals.lww.com/oncology-times/Fulltext/2013/09250/Lymphoma_Specialists_Lament_the_Discontinuation_of.3.aspx Adjust,
Thank you for interesting video.
My take from that discussion:
three randomized, placebo-controlled, multi-centrer Phase III studies for Provenge demonstrated we have OS;
first in class very-well tolereted treatment take only 1 month;
Need new surrogate biomarkers, hope will have them next 5 years, meanwhile I posted about
new biomarkers for Zytiga several days ago:
www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=35&m=2869653no response on PSA but some people can see redaction (25-30 % of patients from last phase 3 Impact trial );
Different approach for using Provenge:
Evan Y. Yu, MD.believes after Provenge, scanning should be delayed for 6 months or until symptoms occur, as the disease may appear worse initially. After 6 months, switching to a new therapy may only be warranted for patients with rapidly progressive disease.
Mark C. Scholz, MD, administers Provenge as soon as metastases are detected followed quickly by Zytiga or Xtandi. Scholz utilizes eplerenone (Inspra) in lieu of prednisone in combination with Zytiga, to address concerns over adverse reactions with sipuleucel-T(Provenge).
This approach seems safe and effective and addresses the issue of not being able to detect progression via PSA .
If give Zytiga first - can lose valuable time window for Provenge. So Provenge first -after immediatly withing 1 month Zytiga.What caught my attention: Dr. Evan Y. Yu said he even show Kaplan Meie surviver curves of patients treated with Provenge from last final trial. You can see split beetween Placebo and Provenge start in 6 months. You can see it here ( p.13):
www.dendreon.com/prescribing-information.pdfYou can also look at Figure 3 ASCO 2011: Poster Prolonged Survival in Control Arm Provenge presented by Dr. L.G. Gomella:
Post-Progression Treatment with APC8015F may have Prolonged Survival of Subjects in the Control Arm of Sipuleucel-T Phase 3 Studies. Look at Figure 3 : Blue line Sip-T (Provenge) median survival time-
25.4 months;
Green dotted lime APC8015F (Frozen Provenge) median survival time-
23.5 months;
Red dotted line Placebo median survival time-
12.7 months;
Difference between Provenge groop and real Placebo without crossover-
12.7.
Conclution:
APC8015F (Frozen Provenge) may have prolonged survival of the control arm in the three phase 3 stadies of SP-t ( Provenge), potentially diminishing the observed survival benefit.
www.scribd.com/doc/73051542/ASCO-Poster-Prolonged-Survival-in-Control-Arm-Sip-T-Gomella-2011 Now let see Kaplan Meier survival curves of patients treated with ZYTIGA before Chemo ( Zytiga is prescribed in the same space that Provenge: before chemo);
www.ema.europa.eu/docs/en_GB/document_library/EPAR_-_Product_Information/human/002321/WC500112858.pdfon the page 12 figure 3 Kaplan Meier survival curves look very strange :
patients presumably have to take it for 14 months and then, wait 4 more months to determine if there was a life extension benefit (OS). Curves did not separate until the 18th month...4 months after patients in the treatment arm came off the drug. It mean you need take Zytiga for 14 months + wait 4 months before you will have better chances to be alive longer then person who didn't take Zytiga. Of concern, as well, was the fact that 69% of patients in the treatment arm (Zytiga + prednisone) discontinued treatment at the time the trail was stopped (versus 84% of patients in the placebo + prednisone arm).So Zytiga didn't meet prespesified value for statistical significance OS ( HR- 0792; p-0.0151). The famous biostatistics expert Dr. Susan Halabi was selected by ASCO 2012 to present on the data and in her presentation said:Zytiga pre-chemo was a"failed trial"( because fail OS) She presented a chart showing the statistics and on one side was the category "effective" and on the other "ineffective" and although it was close, Zytiga was labeled "ineffective":
www.xconomy.com/national/2012/06/03/jj-prostate-cancer-trial-shouldnt-have-been-stopped-early/Meanwhile Provenge is currently the best-performing drug (in terms of overall survival hazard ratio).
49packard,
I hope your cancer stay in bay and progressing very slow.
My best to all of you,
Hope
Post Edited (HOPENEVERDIE) : 10/7/2013 1:14:57 PM (GMT-6)