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Posted 8/12/2015 11:50 AM (GMT 0)
Here is one for a PCa survivor who also has heart problems to ponder. It seems testosterone therapy may prevent cardiovascular problems.

/www.thestandarddaily.com/a-study-of-83010-older-men-shows-testosterone-therapy-prevents-cardiovascular-problems/4713/

Post Edited (RCS) : 8/12/2015 5:54:30 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 8/12/2015 12:39 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks for this RCS.
I've never even had my T level checked. Wondering if I should ask my cardiologist/GP about it
Posted 8/12/2015 1:14 PM (GMT 0)
Prato,
Yes, and be sure to check with the urologist before starting T .... you may want to be sure your are not increasing your risks as far as a PCa recurrence goes.
Posted 8/12/2015 1:24 PM (GMT 0)
Yes, I'm on T-therapy to reduce the cardio risk and also to mitigate bone loss. Dr. Mulhall at MSKCC has me on Clomid which signals the body to produce more T on its own rather than supplementing it. My T level is now in the appropriate range.

Walt
Posted 8/12/2015 4:36 PM (GMT 0)
NJWatt,

I googled Clomid and I see that its primary use is for aiding ovulation in women who want to get pregnant, and their was a short reference to it being used to increase fertility (T?) in men. Do you have any additional info (cites) that Dr. Mulhall may have given? I am guessing that if anyone would know how to increase a PCa patients T it would be Dr. Mulhall.
Posted 8/12/2015 5:37 PM (GMT 0)
Dr. Mulhall's book discusses it.

Here are a few sites that discuss it. Google "Clomid for men".

http://www.livescience.com/47094-clomid-treat-low-testosterone.html
http://shiramillermd.com/blog/clomid-men-testosterone-alternative.html
http://jeffreydachmd.com/clomid-for-low-testosterone-part-one/

Walt
Posted 8/12/2015 10:34 PM (GMT 0)
Here is an FDA warning about use of testosterone, stating that there is concern that testosterone supplementation may increase the risk of heart attack and stroke:

www.cbsnews.com/news/fda-issues-warning-on-testosterone-boosting-drugs/

Post Edited (Postop) : 8/12/2015 4:40:53 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 8/13/2015 1:16 PM (GMT 0)
Postop,

Yes, that is what I remembered; however, as I understand what NJWatt posted, is that the use of Clomid does not involve the use of "supplementation". That somehow the Clomid causes the body to produce more T. I am guessing that if a rock star like Mulhall (who I am sure is aware of the study you site) recommends Clomid he must have a belief that the Clomid approach is better for you than supplementation. I really do not know, just thinking out loud!
Posted 8/13/2015 2:03 PM (GMT 0)
Clomid inhibs the pituitary gland from creating something which inhibs the production of T.  So this double negative ends up with the testes producing more T naturally.  The dosage is carefully adjusted so that the T level falls into the normal range.

Yes, Dr. MulHall did not recommend a T supplement for me.  He has a reasonable high number of PC patients on Clomid or other T therapies, including many with high risk G8 or G9 scores like myself.  Of course we're carefully monitored for a rising PSA.  So far in his, and other's, experience there's been no statistically significant difference in the recurrence rate for those with T therapy versus those without.

The other advantages of Clomid are that it's simple to take, one pill every other day for me, and it has very few and benign side effects, none in my case that I've noticed.

Walt

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