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Iluvgrub
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Joined : Mar 2017
Posts : 37
Posted 3/2/2017 6:42 PM (GMT 0)
Hello, my first post on HW although since coming across the site I have read lots of posts and gained good ideas from them. I was diagnosed with pc in June 2016. I had no symptoms and was shocked, still am. The doc had me on watch and wait for a time but the mri showed there was a possible probability (or the other way around) of the disease moving out of the sac. So that option was off the table and I had RPP December 7th 2016. Gleason was 6 and of the 6 biopsy samples one was 50% cancer related, so I was early along the path which was/is good. My father lived till 80 with the disease and died of an unrelated illness. The operation was no problem, the first week was the worst and had the catheter removed after 8 days, which for me was too early and promptly had it replaced when I couldn't pee. Thankfully my surgeon had me in the office within an hour of my call to replace the catheter, which turned out to be placed incorrectly. I then had an ultrasound which also pointed out the urethra had come away from the bladder. So I was back in for another operation to fix it. The surgeon had no idea why, looking back I think the catheter was out too early and with too big a yank.
So in went another catheter and all in all I lost 23 days recovery time. So I am two months in recovery, roughly. Incontinence is a challenge for me, my wife has been very supportive through all my hissy fits and feeling sorry for myself, she is a rock and pulling me through. My willy kind of disappeared for a while but is making a comeback I am happy to say. No erection as yet, but now and then it feels stronger than the last time. I take Cialis every other day but this is expensive so won't be long term.
I have found the penis clamp to be of benefit, I actually ventured out for a meal with friends for the first time wearing the clamp and a light pad for three hours and was quite comfortable the whole evening, so I can have a life. I am walking two miles a day and have a 30 min easy exercise routine, plus the kagels are a daily occurrence. Easy to do so why not do them. I will venture back to the gym in a while, the clamp has given me confidence. The worst of it I find is wearing the thick pads during the day, this is my worst time. I use them until heavy and walking is difficult. I use 3/4 pads, maybe I should change more often. I use a barrier cream and have not had any real issues with chaffing. I do have a problem with the penis glans being red and itchy due to the constant leakage, anyone use anything that is good to help. I find all I can smell these days is pee. Sleeping and sitting are no problem, as with most of us. I have spent a good deal on supplies, as we all do but finally feeling I am zoning in to what works best for me.
This is a game changer for sure and its easy to say I wish I had hung on to my prostate but my relief when pathology reported they had got it all was immense, no cancer sounds good.
So doing the best I can, trying to be positive and like all of us hoping for some semblance of improvement. I have already made my mind up I will go for the aus800 (not the sling my surgeon has suggested already, go figure) but will allow myself 18 months recovery time. My surgeon told me my experience during this has been anything but normal (good to know) and I should have more control by now, reading on this forum suggests not. I think surgeons put way to much of a positive stance on the procedure and underestimate the incontinence part and the effects. I was not expecting the way things have been.
These are my thoughts right now and find this little exercise good, in that it reinforces that I have improved very slowly. That is good and I will take anything at this juncture, the improvements are hardly noticeable but are there. Thanks and if there is anything which may help me and others please let me know.
tennisplayer
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Joined : Nov 2016
Posts : 458
Posted 3/2/2017 9:06 PM (GMT 0)
Glad you've joined as a posting member of the forum.
Your post surgery catheter issue is not normal. I suppose the connection could break, but in general, robotic surgery should allow the surgeon to make a good connection with ample stiches.
What I've read about
continence after surgery is that the skill of the surgeon counts a lot. The "external" sphincter stays with you after your prostate is removed. The surgeon has to be careful not to damage that sphincter during the operation.
You're doing the kegels and that will help you. It could take 3 to 6 months before you get good continence back, and they say 95% of patients will not wear pads at a year.
I've done well with my continence.
Others should be posting with their knowledge and opinions. I hope you get better. Good luck.
JackH
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Joined : Oct 2013
Posts : 2037
Posted 3/2/2017 9:17 PM (GMT 0)
Iluvgrub said...
I was not expecting the way things have been.
Well, I think this very clearly states, yet subtly under-states, exactly how a lot of low-risk men feel after seeking an aggressive treatment.
MDNative
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Joined : Nov 2015
Posts : 183
Posted 3/2/2017 9:20 PM (GMT 0)
Hey 'Grub. Welcome to the 'good side' and glad to hear your post-op path report was good. Your surgery was only less than 3 months ago, so don't let the continence stuff get you too down. It'll get better. I wore pads for much longer than I needed to due to confidence issues, but rarely just use a shield now if I know I'm going to be out late.
Can you clarify your type of surgery? You mentioned 'RPP' so did you have a 'Radical Perineal Prostatectomy--via the perineum between your scrotum and anus? I'm curious, as my uncle had this procedure performed in '97, but I didn't think too many surgeons used this method anymore. Then again, I had a 'RRP'-
open 'Radical Retropubic Prostatectomy' via the lower abdomen, which isn't as common now that we're in robotland now!
best of luck. It'll get better.
MD
Iluvgrub
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Joined : Mar 2017
Posts : 37
Posted 3/2/2017 9:40 PM (GMT 0)
Hi MD and thank you for your reply. I am sorry for the confusion, I had a radical prostatectomy, not the perenium route. Still trying to figure out the abbreviations. I didn't know what a perenium was until I had the op. So naive about
everything, I have times I wish I had looked into other treatment options also, a bit late now. I have a contact going the radiation route and just sailing through it, its early days but he is doing well thankfully.
Cheers.
Gemlin
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Joined : Jul 2015
Posts : 727
Posted 3/2/2017 10:20 PM (GMT 0)
Sorry to hear about
your problems with leakage of urine. Give it the time it takes to regain control. Only 2 out of 100 men have major problems with incontinence after one year. 9 out of 10 of men have no problems or wear a small pad. So it will get much better!
Iluvgrub
Regular Member
Joined : Mar 2017
Posts : 37
Posted 3/2/2017 10:26 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks Gemlin, that is interesting. It is difficult to retrieve information on studies like that. I am giving myself 18 months. I truly hope I am in the 9 of 10.
Cheers.
Dr WHO
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Joined : May 2016
Posts : 280
Posted 3/2/2017 11:55 PM (GMT 0)
Welcome to the club! Please know that many men leak for up to six months with almost all having control after two years. Chances are you will not have to wait that long.
I was leaking over 700 grams a day after surgery. Kegels did not help. However, once I started riding a bike (had to change pads during the ride) my leakage went down to less than 10 grams a day. Four months later I started 38 rounds of radiation, even though I was still leaking. My leakage increased slightly after radiation and it has not gotten better. That said, I am still active, have gone scuba diving (wet suite lives up to its name).
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