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Posted 2/3/2018 7:11 PM (GMT 0)

John_TX said...


Lupron turned me into a touchy-feely emotional basket case, not that anything is wrong with touchy-feely but that wasn't me. I hated the mood swings. I actually cried after getting frustrated when something didn't go right. This was really not me. I don't cry, I get mad and determined to overcome the obstacle or situation.

The last time I was depressed was when my high school prom queen girlfriend dumped me, a defensive half-back, for the star QB. Talk about the green eyed monster.

One month into my six month Lupron shot, just minor irritants so far. But if, as John and Rob have cautioned, the next 5 months turns me into a whinny, touchy-feely, glitter sandal wearing basket case, strong anti depression drugs may be the order of the day. shocked
Posted 2/3/2018 7:33 PM (GMT 0)
Well, no glitter sandals YET, it's more eunuch like. I still like to fix stuff and watch action movies, hate to cook and avoid reality TV. I find beautiful women very attractive, but not sure what I would do with one. The passion just is not there. But I can stare at the ceiling for hours.
Posted 2/4/2018 1:59 PM (GMT 0)

MacroMan said...
Not only depression but also PTSD:

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health-and-fitness/health/for-patients-fighting-cancer-ptsd-is-one-more-battle/article37813930/

Avery interesting read.

/www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health-and-fitness/health/for-patients-fighting-cancer-ptsd-is-one-more-battle/article37813930/


Another nice place.

survivornet.ca/
Posted 2/4/2018 2:52 PM (GMT 0)

RobLee said...
.... I find beautiful women very attractive, but not sure what I would do with one. The passion just is not there. But I can stare at the ceiling for hours.


LOL. Same here tongue
Posted 8/17/2018 5:21 PM (GMT 0)
I don't know if it's too late to jump in. I had my 6month Lupron about 5 weeks ago I started radiation last week. I've completed 9 treatments so far. It just seems all of a sudden I have zero interest in anything I used to enjoy. I don't even want to try anything. I'm pretty much just sitting in a chair looking at the wall when I'm home. Work isn't much better. Just generally bummed out. I'm thinking it's the hormones. The drive to the cancer center is depressing. I used to like that part of town but now I'm conditioned to dread going there. Sounds like from you guys it should go away. Can't really take any antidepressants with out getting HR type people involved. And I'll probably get laid off next year. I'm done whining.
Posted 8/17/2018 5:39 PM (GMT 0)
Hope it goes away. I could push through the fatigue most days but some days gave in and napped. Best advice i got from HW veterans was stay active. At week four I played tennis again, twice, even though I had to stop for water and rest every ten minutes (well it was 95 degrees), have kept up and found energy level has improved steadily. Whatever sport or activity (walking is good) you like to do, just do it. Not necessarily well or even fun at first but worth doing IMHO.
Posted 8/17/2018 5:44 PM (GMT 0)
might be better to start a new thread, but -

Yes, depression is common. HT, PC can and will drive many men towards depression. Some need some medication to get past it.

It's a serious issue and glad you brought it up. I hope you'll call your doctors and ask for some help.

and walk, exercise, move, something, anything. That can help too.

and don't stop whining - complain, *****, whine, whatever - just get some help on this. The HT can be powerful stuff and the docs can do a lot to help you. Meds, counseling, support groups, HW, can all help.

Complain all you want here - that's why we're here, to listen.

Andrew
Posted 8/17/2018 6:35 PM (GMT 0)
I just reread this thread from the beginning. In some odd way, it’s uplifting. Some of the posts turn a negative into a positive and that’s a good thing. I think it was Island Times comment that struck me as most uplifting . But there were many. Subdenis as well.
Posted 8/17/2018 7:24 PM (GMT 0)
I've dealt with depression on occasion and what I learned is that one is not either depressed or not depressed but on a continuum. As I tried to learn more about it I found that most books dealt with more serious levels of depression but I found one book that really spoke to me:

Almost Depressed by Jefferson Prince and Shelley Carson
Posted 8/17/2018 10:30 PM (GMT 0)
Interesting to read back through this thread. Since last post I went into a depression, the likes of which I'd never known existed. I honestly feared for my safety.

Struggling on and off with it alot of my adult life....I thought I understood it well. Never been able to take anti-depressants (even though they would lift the depression). They always gave me heart palpitations, they made me feel "disconnected" from myself, other SE's which made the cure worse than the disease (for me).

around may or so I found myself under the covers most days. the thoughts in my head were seriously unhealthy. My PCP knows my history. He's been with me through every step of the way for decades. My last visit....about 6 weeks ago...I told him the truth as to what I was doing...and the seriousness of my thoughts. He had one last suggestion for me.....

"Here's a new med (Trintellix). I want you to take one two days a week. Come back in a month". I did that. And let me tell you, it has helped. It has put my legs back under me. It's getting me out of bed in the morning. It's enabling me to face the things I didn't want to have to face. It's helped me to put some structure back in my life again. It's lifted that load. I no longer feel "the lone ranger". I no longer feel defective. I feel human again.

Anyone reading this....just know this...there is *always* hope. ALWAYS. (And I know what you're thinking..."No. Not for me. You don't know me. I'm different. And even if there is a way out...it's not worth it") If you're like I am when I'm depressed....the LAST thing on earth you want is for anyone else to know just how badly you are depressed. You dont want anyone knowin' just what a broken human being you are.

What I'm tellin' ya is nothing you ain't heard before. I understand that. But, I'm tellin' ya...if there's hope for me...there's hope for you. Take that to the bank. (and I'm sorry you're hurtin')
Posted 8/17/2018 10:55 PM (GMT 0)
Totally sucks ...I have to do something here as well ..anxiety is thru the roof ..real bad ...I am taking anti anxiety meds but not enough ...I’m afraid I will lose my job ..only sleeping around 4 hours a night. It’s ****ed ...EBR and brachytherapy..did me in emotionally ...I am locked up ..on flowmax 2 times. Day can5 empty bladder and may have protitus ...been bleeding out my ass since Tuesday .......so what’s a good anti depressant these days...I mean I could hardly get my hair cut ....that sucks

Post Edited (Stan1961) : 8/17/2018 5:01:17 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 8/17/2018 11:01 PM (GMT 0)
a counselor, psychologist or other mental health professional might be able to help you Stan. I'm sure your medical team would be happy to make a referral.
Posted 8/18/2018 12:36 AM (GMT 0)
IT...that's quite a story. Thank you for continuing to share. Glad to hear you're doing better.
Posted 8/18/2018 1:00 AM (GMT 0)
Stan1961, I am so sorry you are having so many problems. Dan could not take flomax. Have you tried rapaflo? Dan took 4mg rapaflo yesterday after first HDR. No SE at all. He could not sleep with flomax.
Also, have you tried probiotics? Kroger brand costs six dollars and really helps with bowel issues.
Wishing you better days ahead.

IT, thanks for sharing that..
Posted 8/18/2018 1:14 AM (GMT 0)
Having a tough time making decisions, I’ve been really down lately. Like almost non functional. I went to see my PCP who is also my Cardiologist. I asked him about going from 50 mg to 75 mg on my Zoloft , I was concerned that I might not be able to lower it when things calm down. He said it shouldn’t be a problem. IV ebeen on 75 for 2 days. I’m feeling a lot better. But I can’t imagine that after 2 days it would make a big difference. Who knows, maybe it’s just that I’m done researching myself to death and questioning myself till the cows come home. Whatever, all I care about is that I feel better. But there’s something about needing Zoloft, or whatever, to feel good, that really bothers me. I can’t explain it. It weighs on my mind. It shouldn’t be that way. Even though half of America is on this crap.
Posted 8/18/2018 1:52 AM (GMT 0)
I don't like pills either. But at this point, I'm lookin' at it like Lupron. One in the same.
Posted 8/18/2018 2:11 AM (GMT 0)

island time said...
I don't like pills either. But at this point, I'm lookin' at it like Lupron. One in the same.


😂😂😂
Posted 8/18/2018 3:47 AM (GMT 0)
I wish I was the type of guy who just said **** it ....if there r men out there who all of s sudden couldn’t piss and to use flomax 2 times a day and all of sudden starts crapping blood .but can still sleep and work well he is a better man than me ........you know the surgeon warned of all side effects and chances ,....RO should be held accountable...I asked about side effects he said mine would be mostly urinary ....that’s it ....sure hope it cures me after all this ....and I dint care what anyone e says .....I would rather be *****ing about wearing a diaper thsn this ...PERIOD

Post Edited (Stan1961) : 8/17/2018 9:58:54 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 8/18/2018 4:29 AM (GMT 0)
Stan, if I said anything to upset you I am so sorry. I think when you cannot sleep everything looks so much worse? Tall Allen told me to try rapaflo for Dan. The flomax immediately gave Dan insomnia and other
weird SE. The rapaflo is allowing him to sleep and with the azo seems to be helping with the urinary
problems. I don’t know how far out you are from your treatment?
Posted 8/18/2018 12:33 PM (GMT 0)
Stan....go to "My Profile" top left of this page. Go to "Edit Profile" and enter your email address. I've read your history. When I was where you are in recovery from surgery, I was still in the hospital. If ya wanna hear a graphic story, I got one for ya. What's going on with you happens with others. One guy who had your treatment, is having your SE's right now too. He's already asked for your email once.
Posted 8/18/2018 12:37 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks for the comments. It helped me just to get it down in writing and have someone acknowledge it. I know its just a chemically induced depression and I will come out the other side.
Posted 8/18/2018 1:59 PM (GMT 0)

island time said...
Stan....go to "My Profile" top left of this page. Go to "Edit Profile" and enter your email address. I've read your history. When I was where you are in recovery from surgery, I was still in the hospital. If ya wanna hear a graphic story, I got one for ya. What's going on with you happens with others. One guy who had your treatment, is having your SE's right now too. He's already asked for your email once.

No thanks don’t need to hear that
Posted 8/18/2018 2:05 PM (GMT 0)
Think I may chill for a while ...the forums are good but let’s face its...there are over 2 million men running around with this ..I bet 2/3 or more are cured ....it seems like 90% ofthe people on here have problems ....which is fine ....I got a lot of help and aquired a lot of knowledge .yet bottom line is I need to get over this and hope my levels keep dropping ....and move on ....it seems everyday there is a new thread about another bad thing and the only good ones are updates from surgery....
Posted 8/18/2018 2:08 PM (GMT 0)
chilling would be good.
Posted 8/18/2018 2:55 PM (GMT 0)
Does this make any sense to anyone .....2 types of treatment for this usually ....surgery or radiation therapy ... both can cure you if u r lucky ...depending on stats of course ... so. 1 surgury...ok u check in after breing nervousness as hell ...get it done ...home next day ..pain ..foley catheter.. meds a lot of them for a week .sure u r a mess maybe for a week ...but u r home ...peeing freely eating good ...cath comes out ...ok so. Worst thing yourvleaking ok u freak out ...hopefulyy pathology report looks good ... u slowly exercise start to get better because u can drink tons and pee free eat good cause u can crap still ...6 weeks get a blood test and hope u r one of those 8 out of 10 that hit point 2....great for now u r cancer free ...what more do u want .. but instead. You chose radiation like me ...u slowly start to mess yourself up over a month ..by then there is no,turning back if u r lucky u get no side effects but everyone does some slot and they aren’t good ...so now u r more sick than u were having cancer without treating it ...so now u r on this med and that med can eat this or that hsve to be by a can can’t sleep, upset ..hopefully it all goes away and guess what oh crap I forgot about the cancer crap I hope that’s gone as well . Oh and I hsve to wait 3 months just to see if it’s gone down a bit my PSA .and if it hasn’t then whst ..........seriously they should only use radiation for secondary treatment only ....only if u hsve to hsve it ....I think it’s purely an experiment that I got sucked into . 70% of the country doesn’t hsve options all they hsve is surgury...lucky them
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