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Posted 5/20/2019 10:57 AM (GMT 0)
....watched John Wick 2 last night myself...love that series. smile

Capt Morgan, a decent Cabernet Sauvignon or a Labatt Blue light here, with a Pax of decent cannabis (legal here, both med and rec). All in moderation.

The only 'hard' drugs I have taken in the last few decades were for surgery and leuprolide chemo for the PCa...

A confounding factor in survival after recurrence is the epiphany many of us have when we find out we have cancer. Then we get serious about diet and exercise, both of which can extend your life and improve your health.

Once again - if you are in the top 20% healthiest folks in your age group, your chance of dying from ALL causes (including PCa or being hit by a truck) at any given time are 40% lower than your cohort. That is powerful stuff there.

Jokers wild, as usual. wink
Posted 5/20/2019 4:16 PM (GMT 0)
Zeddy, our friend Logos has perhaps the best attitude of all....he (like all of us) are going to live till we die. Maybe PC will get him (and us) in the end, and maybe not. So, go get to living life to the best of your ability.

Me, I've been working all morning--at my cabin in the Maine woods. Washed all the windows (24 total, 4 'lights' each) inside and outside. Leaving them open to let the lake breeze in--and the calls of the Loons. So, it's living life. We all have a happy place--where it's not work.

Enjoy the poker game. I'll watch and learn...
Posted 5/20/2019 7:49 PM (GMT 0)
Most recurrences occur in the few years after surgery. And, maybe more important, doubling time is statistically dependent on the time to recurrence. Most late recurrences are less aggresive than persistent psa or early recurrence cases. However, statistics may dramatically differ from individual cases. Somebody in his sixties or seventies with a ninety something recurrence survival probability should be afraid of ten or more diseases more than of PCa as his main lethal threat. At least, this is what I believe I understand on this .... business.
Posted 5/20/2019 8:45 PM (GMT 0)
trailguy ,

I am pure and clean, not even caffeine. Drink wine occasionally. Have been a runner for 45 years of my life, but I envy your style … really mouth watering.

I couldn’t agree more with every word that you said . Cheers

Post Edited (Zeddy) : 5/20/2019 4:15:35 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 5/20/2019 9:36 PM (GMT 0)

halbert said...
Zeddy, our friend Logos has perhaps the best attitude of all....he (like all of us) are going to live till we die. Maybe PC will get him (and us) in the end, and maybe not. So, go get to living life to the best of your ability.

Me, I've been working all morning--at my cabin in the Maine woods. Washed all the windows (24 total, 4 'lights' each) inside and outside. Leaving them open to let the lake breeze in--and the calls of the Loons. So, it's living life. We all have a happy place--where it's not work.

Enjoy the poker game. I'll watch and learn...

halbert

Yes, I know. I love the guy. He has something that many (including myself) don’t have and that is guts ! And he has very individual sense of humour.

Hey, your cabin sounds so wonderful. I could even smell the lake here in my office. No such a thing here in this tiny island called England .. Just cold, wet and windy sad(

Take care and enjoy whatever you are doing.
Posted 5/20/2019 10:11 PM (GMT 0)

jmadrid said...
Most recurrences occur in the few years after surgery. And, maybe more important, doubling time is statistically dependent on the time to recurrence. Most late recurrences are less aggresive than persistent psa or early recurrence cases. However, statistics may dramatically differ from individual cases. Somebody in his sixties or seventies with a ninety something recurrence survival probability should be afraid of ten or more diseases more than of PCa as his main lethal threat. At least, this is what I believe I understand on this .... business.

Hey jmadrid !!

I am only 28 !! Will be 29 this September !!
Thanks for your reply. I took it out not because that I had cancer, but because I didn't want to have cancer. PC had killed my father, uncle, and granddad. It was hard to find a surgeon who would accept to do the operation - as it is illegal to take out a healthy prostate, but eventually I managed to convince one of the best surgeon in England to do it (taking to account my family history). When it came out, they found cancer, but it was small 0.1%. I can say that I am the only case of prophylactic prostatectomy in England, and I don't regret it for a moment. Life has been so much better without it, but if one day the cancer comes back ..... I'm lost for words ...
Posted 5/20/2019 10:28 PM (GMT 0)
“I am only 28 !! Will be 29 this September !!
Thanks for your reply. I took it out not because that I had cancer, but because I didn't want to have cancer. ”

Yikes! Well, that’s being preemptive!
Posted 5/22/2019 11:26 PM (GMT 0)

mattam said...
“I am only 28 !! Will be 29 this September !!
Thanks for your reply. I took it out not because that I had cancer, but because I didn't want to have cancer. ”

Yikes! Well, that’s being preemptive!


Maybe, maybe not !!
Posted 5/22/2019 11:57 PM (GMT 0)
The title of this thread is quite misleading...
but has led to some interesting poker conversations.
Posted 5/23/2019 9:05 AM (GMT 0)
Sr Sailor,
I agree, we can learn from all kinds of stories. The world would not be the same without fiction.
Posted 5/23/2019 9:45 AM (GMT 0)

Sr Sailor said...
The title of this thread is quite misleading...
but has led to some interesting poker conversations.

Why don't you join us? There is no harm in playing a few rounds. It's only over drinks smile)

Post Edited (Zeddy) : 5/23/2019 4:39:38 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 5/23/2019 9:50 AM (GMT 0)

Jaybee&GG said...
Ugh. That's depressing! Darn carppy disease!! Coming up to 3 year anniversary for GG and it sure doesn't get any easier...

Your results are amazing. Congratulation. I don't think you have anything to worry about. Good luck
Posted 5/23/2019 11:56 AM (GMT 0)
Been running for 53 years, 50 miles/80 kilometers a week these days. I am no longer very fast, however.

Our ancestors advised us not to take onto our bodies such that would make us weak or stupid, so I follow that advice. As a Taekwondo practitioner, I don't so anything that would mess up my balance, speed, power or accuracy. That means a healthy diet, lots of exercise, sufficient rest and daily mindfulness meditation.

Not a prude, though, just a tad off-the-wall. Also very much in love with my lovely lady Labrador Retriever who is my running partner and playmate. smile

Jokers wild.

EDIT: completely off topic, but my dear son who is about to be married (June 1) is 28.
Posted 5/23/2019 9:51 PM (GMT 0)

trailguy said...
Been running for 53 years, 50 miles/80 kilometers a week these days. I am no longer very fast, however.

Our ancestors advised us not to take onto our bodies such that would make us weak or stupid, so I follow that advice. As a Taekwondo practitioner, I don't so anything that would mess up my balance, speed, power or accuracy. That means a healthy diet, lots of exercise, sufficient rest and daily mindfulness meditation.

Not a prude, though, just a tad off-the-wall. Also very much in love with my lovely lady Labrador Retriever who is my running partner and playmate. smile

Jokers wild.

EDIT: completely off topic, but my dear son who is about to be married (June 1) is 28.


50 miles a week is fantastic. I do 30 a week, just over 4 miles a day, every day. You must be quite tall. I am only 5 foot 7", so for every step that you take, I have to take 3 to catch up with you smile

What colour is your lady Labrador ? I bet she is fitter than you are ? smile
Congratulation, and a very happy marriage and wedding day to your son. I wish I was 28 again smile
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