Famous Folk who succumbed to PCa

A bit of an eye opener. I was aware of some of them, but didn’t know for most. I had never heard of several men on the list. A serial killer? Really? 😉

I know that Orbach had a good 10 year run on ADT. It would be interesting knowing the stories of the other men.

Very interesting, alephnull.

Here is something that is very much OT, but I found it remarkable if true, and others may have noticed it as well, so that I feel like mentioning it.

In the article you cite there is the paragraph about Ludwig Wittgenstein. In it there is an accompanying photo that supposedly shows him as a schoolboy standing near a classmate, who is claimed to be none other than Adolf Hitler. (The boy in the photo does indeed look remarkably like Hitler would have looked at that age).

Intrigued, I did a little websearching, and apparently opinion really is divided as to whether the boy on the left is really Wittgenstein, even if the boy on the right is really Hitler.

Apparently it's true that Wittgenstein and Hitler did attend the same school at about the same age, which would seem remarkable in itself, but a number of authorities still maintain that that is not Ludwig in the photo.

This seems to be a good write-up about the question, discussing the pros and cons as to whether the boy in the photo is actually Wittgenstein, but probably coming down more on the side that it is probably not him:

http://www.strangehistory.net/2010/06/10/hitler’s-class-mate/

Again, sorry if this is getting a good ways off from the thread topic, but it just seemed so interesting.

81, Are you kidding, that was perfect.
F8, I didn't research the entries, but maybe he suicided because of his PCa.

Interesting and depressing all rolled into one

Interesting article list - not at all reassuring except that the majority were older than my husband when they passed. Of note, I recently read that Frank Zappa was diagnosed with terminal prostate cancer at the onset.

Nytngale said...
Interesting article list - not at all reassuring except that the majority were older than my husband when they passed. Of note, I recently read that Frank Zappa was diagnosed with terminal prostate cancer at the onset.

Frank Zappa died two years after diagnosis and he was angry that his doctors didn't catch the disease earlier when he complained of urinary problems.

he talks about his cancer beginning at 6:50 in this interview, tho the whole interview is worth watching.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=zappa+interview+today+show+1993

Nytngale said...
Thanks, for the video F8. A sad story for sure and I can empathize with his anger. My husband's doc ordered a PSA on his physical the year before his diagnosis that was never done and the omission wasn't caught. I still occasionally wonder if we would be at a different place if that test had been run a year earlier. However, the what-if doesn't change what he's enduring now.

I was diagnosed after my first PSA test. I had no symptoms. my doctor told me that I had cancer for at least five years and that if I had waited another year we'd be talking a different story. so I feel very fortunate that I wasn't diagnosed stage 4 and you husband is fortunate as well.

I had a friend who was diagnosed with a PSA in the hundreds. he was a trooper and his goal was to outlive the doctor's prediction for his life expectancy and he did by almost two years.

Stokley claimed to his last breath that the CIA gave him cancer. I knew Stokley or Kwame Ture. I was younger and believed him until I got PC. Later, I realized that this was not true. Langston Hughes and Eldridge Cleaver. I did not see the name Robert Gullimiume (Benson) on the list.

F8,
Looking back I'm still a bit angry at my PCP. He gave me a PSA at 50 and it was 4.0. He didn't even mention it, I wish he would have done some sort of followup.

But I can't be angry as two years later I had another PSA test and it was up to 7.8.
He suggested I go to a urologist, I didn't after all it was just prostate cancer. F me.
Another 2 years and it was up to 20.6, I went this time. F me, it ended up being advanced stage 4.

What's amazing to me, about lists like this, is there is still a very strong idea out there that PCa "doesn't kill anyone anymore", and that "yeah, everyone is going to get it eventually, but it's no big deal", and so on.

I'm grateful for my high cholesterol diagnosis at an early age. My PCP required 6 month liver function tests starting in my mid 40's for potential med SE's. Each time he added a psa test, unknown to me. I didn't know what it was. But my psa elevated at a slow and deliberate rate over ten years until it finally reached 4.2 and all the fun started. I'm certain I wouldn't have been aware anything was wrong without my PCP being so proactive, wise and cautions. This was at the time (still?) when psa tests were discredited and not advised.