Fake web news reports on the coronavirus (OT)

Two NYC physicians call for nationwide shelter in place: A plea from NYC physicians: Our window of opportunity is closing to avoid Italy's fate https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/488585-a-plea-from-nyc-physicians-our-window-of-opportunity-is-closing-to-avoid

alephnull said...

BTW I had this really political statement all typed out, but I decided not to.

Yeah, please don't, our lives are complicated enough right now LOL

Thanks Aleph

Just got back from snowshoeing for 3 hrs what a great way to forget the craziness of the world and enjoy nature. I encourage everyone to get out and enjoy mother nature if possible it's free of the virus!!

Larry

alephnull said...
I guess we just aren't as despotic, dictatorial, and authoritarian as the Chinese government is.
Oh how I wish we were more like China. /sarc

So, no I do not believe anything they tell us.
BTW I had this really political statement all typed out, but I decided not to.

The China bashing in this thread with regards covid is more about xenophobia or racism. Yes, they are an authoritarian regime, but equally yes their response to covid has worked to a point. Now, Trump's response ? (phrase removed by moderator = too political)

Post Edited By Moderator (Tudpock18) : 3/21/2020 5:57:51 AM (GMT-6)

Washington Governor Inslee: "Someone asked the other day, 'what's the penalty for a young person going out to a restaurant, or hanging in a social get-together?' And it's true the penalty is that you might kill your grandparent."

Fine sentiment, perhaps, but I feel legal penalties should be enforced to the maximum for people who violate a public health order, if one has been made. I see too many photos on social media, read too many news stories, of reckless, selfish, immoral people acting like this is just any other time, and going out, risking everyone's health in the process.

Yes Hal, I agree we are not China. I can see that. We are freeeeeeeeeeeee. ;-)

I remember the National Guard being out after MLK was assassinated. I remember seeing the jeeps patrolling streets. I don't know if that will happen again. I don't have any idea how many would be needed. I read the military was deployed in New Jersey yesterday, to deal with drive-thru testing. I don't know details. I do know they've been called up in various states to deal with this. The police had to enforce bar closings in my city, because some idiots decided selling booze, and getting drunk was more important than people's lives. I hope the city fines them, and yanks their licenses. If you yank the business licenses of a couple of the reckless owners, it will set an example to the rest to follow orders, or else.

When I venture out for supplies, I see a mixed bag of social distancing. Some are, others aren't. I will maybe take some photos and make a site to post them. IDK. Keeping a record of these times is important.

Hal my daughter lost her job yesterday. She manages a hair salon. One of my brothers lost his too. He's a tattoo artist. The governor ordered them all closed - along with barbershops, nail salons, tanning salons, day spas, tattoo parlors and body art establishments (whatever that is - despite being "only" 63 I feel too old to know or care).

State liquor stores closed? I can see panic breaking out for that. Heh.

I wish they'd run out of cigarettes to be honest. Then my wife would be forced to quit. I have my fingers crossed.

We need a chat feature on this site so we can talk in real time. We're all going to be stuck inside.

Wilderness quite a journey you've been on. I'm a little surprised, maybe not that much, there were no medical questions upon reentry. Sounds like you've a good setup on the end of that gravel road. I wish I lived on the end of one too.

I'm also confident we will get drugs, and a vaccine, to beat this. It can't happen soon enough.

Best to you and yours too.

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Saw this bit of news today:

The states of California and New York turn to China for help in the war against COVID-19
https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1183295.shtml

and this:

National Guard deployed to 28 states

and this:

The World Health Organization is now calling for PHYSICAL DISTANCING not social distancing, saying everyone needs to be separate from others

Post Edited (Buddy Blank) : 3/21/2020 8:03:11 AM (GMT-6)

A terrifying article detailing the account of a medical worker documenting lung failure from COVID-19: https://www.propublica.org/article/a-medical-worker-describes--terrifying-lung-failure-from-covid19-even-in-his-young-patients

“In my experience, this severity of ARDS is usually more typical of someone who has a near drowning experience — they have a bunch of dirty water in their lungs — or people who inhale caustic gas. Especially for it to have such an acute onset like that. I’ve never seen a microorganism or an infectious process cause such acute damage to the lungs so rapidly. That was what really shocked me.

“It first struck me how different it was when I saw my first coronavirus patient go bad. I was like, Holy crap, this is not the flu. Watching this relatively young guy, gasping for air, pink frothy secretions coming out of his tube and out of his mouth. The ventilator should have been doing the work of breathing but he was still gasping for air, moving his mouth, moving his body, struggling. We had to restrain him. With all the coronavirus patients, we’ve had to restrain them. They really hyperventilate, really struggle to breathe. When you’re in that mindstate of struggling to breathe and delirious with fever, you don’t know when someone is trying to help you, so you’ll try to rip the breathing tube out because you feel it is choking you, but you are drowning.

“When someone has an infection, I’m used to seeing the normal colors you’d associate with it: greens and yellows. The coronavirus patients with ARDS have been having a lot of secretions that are actually pink because they’re filled with blood cells that are leaking into their airways. They are essentially drowning in their own blood and fluids because their lungs are so full. So we’re constantly having to suction out the secretions every time we go into their rooms.

“Before this, we were all joking. It’s grim humor. If you are exposed to the virus and test positive and go on quarantine, you get paid. We were all joking: I want to get the coronavirus because then I get a paid vacation from work. And once I saw these patients with it, I was like, Holy crap, I do not want to catch this and I don’t want anyone I know to catch this."

You lost me buddy, at “terrifying”. It helped me decide not to read it. I’m terrified enough.

Pratoman said...
You lost me buddy, at “terrifying”. It helped me decide not to read it. I’m terrified enough.

The article was the toughest thing I've read since the start of this.

2019 yes, it was a truly horrifying article. I hesitated to show that it to my wife. I don't like to burden her, or my kids. I like to protect them, if I can. There's a lot of ways to go, but this one doesn't seem a particularly "good" one (if any are). It also seems to come swiftly. I can't believe that a few months ago the world was so different - our lives were so different.

Man, I gotta go in June to get the PSA, and I am NOT wanting to enter any lab, or hospital lab, not for $50, not for $50 million.

Earthquake go-bag? You in Cali? We lived there 25 years, in LA: met my wife there, at the Frolic Room on Hollywood and Vine, kids born there, lived through the '97 quake, my dad died up in Lancaster from a botched colonoscopy. Memories. ;-)

Take care of yourself, and your wife, brother.