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Posted 6/24/2020 4:16 PM (GMT 0)
Hi, does anyone know if maintaining veg diet helps control metastatic pca? I have read it helps early stages.
Posted 6/24/2020 5:13 PM (GMT 0)
Diet has been a massive and sometimes contentious topic here. I would do a search - much will come up.
Posted 6/24/2020 5:58 PM (GMT 0)
In a word.......no.

If it did, we would know that conclusively and there would be no one suffering from advancing metastatic cancer.

My niece was a very Life long health oriented vegetarian and lost an 18 month battle against metastatic appendix cancer at age 43.

Diet, whether plant based or plant and animal based, is important to maintain and improve health, but won’t cure or control cancer.
Posted 6/24/2020 6:25 PM (GMT 0)
Veg diet alone? No way. But as part of your treatment plan? Sure it can help. Because if you feel better about how you are eating then well, you'll feel better.
Posted 6/24/2020 6:37 PM (GMT 0)
I read one article that said prostate cancer bypasses hormone therapy by converting cholesterol into testosterone. Does that mean low cholesterol is better? Dang if I know.
Posted 6/24/2020 7:11 PM (GMT 0)
There was a study done among men who had radical prostectomy. Those who ate high fat dairy and red meat had more aggressive recurrance than those who did not.
As you know heart heathy diet is prostate cancer healthy....it can't hurt....the food is not terrible.
The UCSF publishes information about diet appropriate for prostate cancer...for the most part the information is appropriate for heart, diabetics, obesity and other "american" diseases.
Posted 6/24/2020 8:04 PM (GMT 0)
Govent inquired, "does anyone know if maintaining veg diet helps control metastatic pca?"

To which JNF replied, "If it did, we would know that conclusively and there would be no one suffering from advancing metastatic cancer."

The question asked is "help control", nor in the same ballpark as "no one suffering from".

As has been repeated here a number of times - it is not possible to PROVE the efficacy of dietary practices. You can't offer a double blind study of eating or not eating vegetables. We all know what we eat.

There is anecdotal and population study evidence that diet can "help control". Much of that has been cited here.

Personally I have not progressed to metastatic (knock on wood here), but a change in diet correlates with a sustained reduction in post-RP PSA for 3+ years.

I second mattam's suggestion to search - perhaps start with the posts of cashlessClay.

Best to all through this pandemic.
Wilderness
Posted 6/25/2020 12:46 PM (GMT 0)
There is some evidence that avoiding eggs, meat, dairy, sugar tends to reduce PCa recurrence. Chicken skin seems particularly bad. But the research will never show that a certain diet PREVENTS or STOPS cancer. Take a look at these studies:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29105845

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5472048/

https://www.naturalmedicinejournal.com/journal/2010-06/chicken-skin-and-eggs-increase-risk-prostate-cancer-recurrence#:~:text=First%2C%20cooked%20poultry%20skin%20contains,may%20promote%20prostate%20cancer%20growth.
Posted 6/25/2020 12:51 PM (GMT 0)
As shown in the 'sugar and cancer' thread, diet does indeed influence cancer progression. I will add so does exercise and rest. Generally speaking, the better your overall health the better you will tolerate treatments and the better your response to those treatments. smile

Still - no, there is no magic bullet diet to stop or prevent cancer yet, sadly. That would make this fight much easier.

Now back to which mountain to climb today.....
Posted 6/26/2020 4:29 PM (GMT 0)

trailguy said...

Now back to which mountain to climb today.....

Climb every mountain,
Search high and low,
Follow every byway,
Every path you know.Climb every mountain,
Ford every stream,
Follow every rainbow,
'Till you find your dream.
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