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Space OAR Hydrogel treatment anyone know about this?
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Cajun Jeff
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Posted 10/27/2021 11:14 AM (GMT 0)
I was just reading a bit about
this and just wanted to know info. Not that I will use it. Just want to know so I can tell others if a good thing.
JNF
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Posts : 5986
Posted 10/27/2021 12:46 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Jeff.
It is sometimes used with external beam radiation treatment. It is an infusion designed to protect the large intestine from radiation. After several months it dissolves and is absorbed by the body and expelled as waste.
As I understand radiation oncologists are mixed on it’s use. As best I can tell it is more commonly used with SBRT which uses a much higher radiation dose, so potentially more damage to the colon. It was just coming into use when I was treated, so I didn’t use it. I have talked with men that did use it and I haven’t heard of much difference in dose effects compared to those that didn’t use it. There are numerous studies available through PubMed for direct information.
All our best to Pat and you,
Jack
theswan
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Posted 10/27/2021 5:44 PM (GMT 0)
Had SpaceOAR inserted along with the gold markers
I Was asleep so no pain at all. Next day very minor soreness.
Had two sessions of radiation SBRT thus far
It helps put some distance between rectum and part of the bladder so it's well worth it to avoid burning.
Good luck
Glen Heinsohn
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Posted 10/27/2021 7:43 PM (GMT 0)
I received SBRT as a monotherapy for my 3+4 disease two years ago. I elected to have the SpaceOAR placed during the insertion of my fiducials. As stated above, some patients/physicians don't believe it adds anything positive to external beam radiation treatment. Before deciding to go ahead with it I did as much research as possible, although there isn't much because the gel spacer is somewhat new. For me, the bottom line was the success and efficacy of the spacer has a lot to do with the doctor inserting the gel. At the time of my procedure the company rep was in the suite with my Uro, although my doctor has inserted many of them. My procedure went well and I was told that the SpaceOAR created about
a 12mm separation between my prostate and bowel. Because my combined procedure was in outpatient surgery and I was under anesthesia, I never experienced any discomfort. I never had any sensation that the spacer was in place, nor any after effects. I started my five SBRT treatments 12 days later. At my three month post treatment visit with my RO, he did a digital exam and said the spacer had dissolved. The company literature states that it can take up to a year to completely dissolve.
For me, the biopsy, placement of fiducials/SpaceOAR, and the SBRT treatments were completely uneventful. In the two years since my treatment was completed, I have had no side effects. Everything works as it did before my diagnosis. I also considered the possibility that because the SpaceOAR might have protected my adjacent "organs at risk," I might avoid some long term complications sometimes associated with radiation treatment.
If you're considering the spacer, spend some time talking to your medical team about
their experience levels with the procedure. From a non-medical patient perspective, I'm convinced the efficacy of the gel may be based on the quality of its placement, but please check with the professionals.
Cajun Jeff
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Posted 10/27/2021 9:36 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks guys for your responses. I am not seeking treatment have pulled Zeros for 14 years but like to stay involved with treatments if I need to talk with a new diagnosed guy, As. Host for GFMPH I feel the need to be informed.
Again Thanks. Buy the way next GFMPH us going to be in Baton Rouge in April!
theswan
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Posted 10/30/2021 5:43 PM (GMT 0)
Another upside of SpaceOAR is there is no need to insert the balloon into the rectum before radiation. I had that when I tried IMRT and actually got used to it but any less time on the table is good news for me because of my hip, leg and back pain makes lying flat very painful.
Glen
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Posted 10/30/2021 7:05 PM (GMT 0)
I had both SBRT and IMRT but my bottom never had the pleasure of being adorned with a balloon (and SpaceOAR wasn't available at the time).
I wish I knew more about
the balloon issue, but I don't...
Jack64
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Posted 10/30/2021 8:25 PM (GMT 0)
Cajun, I just had the Space OAR procedure on 10/28/21. It was a very easy procedure and as of today I feel nothing different. Keep up the good work of informing others. It is much needed.
Cajun Jeff
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Posted 10/31/2021 1:32 AM (GMT 0)
Thanks Jack and all you guys. Our little group tries to help new guys. Our group is called GFMPH. The next meeting will be in April at my house. Hope some of you new guys can join in. Lots of fun laughter, great good usually starts on Thursday and Ends on Sunday. Contact me if interested.
theswan
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Posted 10/31/2021 9:47 PM (GMT 0)
Sr sailor you cracked me up!
Actually I don't think it's called a balloon. It's more like a probe that inflates with water. They lube it well so it did not hurt. The benefit of SpaceOAR is a minute less lying on my back being prepped.
You are a funny guy but don't start with the " so I amuse you " LOL
Glen
JoeBos
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Posted 11/4/2021 7:25 PM (GMT 0)
I had SpaceOAR and 3 fiducial gold markers put in place on 9/20 in preparation for EBRT. I was awake for the placement and only experienced a bit of soreness for a day or so post-procedure. No big deal. In my case, the Dr. prescribed a tablet of anxiety meds (Ativan) for me to take just prior to procedure because they put in stirrups for about
20 minutes and they want you to be still. I finished the 20 fractions (total 60 Gys) of EBRT/IGRT and had no detectable change in bowel function during RT.
Good luck to you and all the folks in your group!!
chasole
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Posted 11/12/2021 12:50 AM (GMT 0)
I am going with IMRT in the next month or so. My doc mentioned using the SpaceOAR and said it would add a small amount of protection to the rectum, but not essential. He did state my insurance (military Tricare) might not cover it. Its a $3000 shot of goop if paid out of pocket. Yet another decision on this journey of a dozen other gray decisions.
Bobbiesan
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Posted 11/12/2021 1:04 AM (GMT 0)
theswan said...
You are a funny guy but don't start with the " so I amuse you " LOL
Funny how? He's a big boy, he knows what he said.
Vynbal
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Posted 11/12/2021 10:12 AM (GMT 0)
During my early visits w/my RO I asked about
SpaceOAR and was told that due to my EPE he would not use it. He said there was a risk that the gel might push some of the external cancer cells out of the Irradiated field.
Like other aspects of treating this disease, SpaceOAR use is a hedge in the odds. It somewhat improves the odds against long term rectal toxicity, but is no guarantee of protection nor is it's absence necessarily resulting in failure.
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