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Posted 2/11/2024 11:36 PM (GMT 0)
Just saw a report that the secretary has an emergency bladder issue and back in the hospital.
Posted 2/12/2024 2:26 AM (GMT 0)
Post deleted by moderator for Rule #3 violation.

Post Edited By Moderator (Tudpock18) : 2/12/2024 3:23:37 AM (GMT-8)

Posted 2/12/2024 4:15 AM (GMT 0)
Apparently he has passed his responsibilities to Deputy Secretary of Defense Kathleen Hicks,
Posted 2/12/2024 7:46 AM (GMT 0)
Casey59 - you haven't changed a bit have you....

Steve, since I deleted Casey's insulting post, I edited out part of your response. Trust you understand.

Jim

Post Edited By Moderator (Tudpock18) : 2/12/2024 3:24:38 AM (GMT-8)

Posted 2/12/2024 12:23 PM (GMT 0)
Report this morning he's back in Crit Care. I wonder what the heck happened. Seriously. The kind of complications he's having are incredibly rare, assuming that he had a basic prostatectomy. Obviously we don't know the rest of it--but there is, I suspect, a LOT more to the story.

He's a lot sicker than he should be, 8 weeks after treatment for PCa.
Posted 2/12/2024 2:02 PM (GMT 0)
Austin is 70. which is on the old side for surgery. I'd like to know why he opted for surgery over radiation for his prostate treatment. I doubt we will ever know, since reportedly Austin values his privacy.
Posted 2/12/2024 5:07 PM (GMT 0)

fiddlecanoe said...
Austin is 70. which is on the old side for surgery. I'd like to know why he opted for surgery over radiation for his prostate treatment. I doubt we will ever know, since reportedly Austin values his privacy.

Setting aside all the issues of RP vs RT, it's no longer the case that 70 is some kind of upper age limit for an RP, especially with today's anesthesia. It really depends on the patient's health. Of course, even for men in generally good health, we do all heal slower as we get older. I'm 76 now and my uro/surgeon said a couple of visits ago--when I asked about an age limit for a RP--he would still perform the RP for me if I presented today and my imaging were the same as in 2017.
Posted 2/13/2024 12:19 PM (GMT 0)
I am thinking (guessing) some kind of persistent infection. Tough times…
Posted 2/13/2024 4:55 PM (GMT 0)
Another possible angle here.

It is easy to assume that the Secretary's job is a highly demanding one, pressure-filled, and a constant non-stop progression from one challenging, perhaps stressful, decision to another.

What is it we are all told to do when leaving the hospital following surgery?

Relax. Minimize stress and physical exertion. Rest a lot and take it easy.

Perhaps the Secretary, due to the pressures of his job, has, intentionally or unintentionally, ignored that advice, and has pushed himself too hard too soon, in an effort to do his job, farther than his recovering status is able to handle right now.

Perhaps he has thus sustained some kind of post-surgery injury from pushing himself too hard.

His doctor may be telling him right now, "I told you to take it easy for a few weeks! Now go home and rest for a while! No exertions!"

But perhaps that's easier said than done for someone in the Secretary's position.
Posted 2/13/2024 10:04 PM (GMT 0)
I think he has fulfilled his obligation to be transparent, in saying he is back in the hospital due to a bladder issue. I also don't think he has any obligation to disclose why he chose surgery over radiation, thats a personal decision, just like it is here.

I don't see any reason why the general public should need to get into the weeds of this thing, But hey, thats just me.
Posted 2/13/2024 11:20 PM (GMT 0)
Regardless, I dont feel particularly safe right now.
Posted 2/14/2024 2:54 AM (GMT 0)

Stephen S said...
Regardless, I dont feel particularly safe right now.

Safe from what?
Posted 2/14/2024 3:14 AM (GMT 0)

VinceinMT said...
Safe from what?

Well we have a war in Ukraine. War in Israel. War in the Red Sea/Yemen. China continues to threaten Taiwan.

Anyway, it seems like he is out of the hospital and back at work for now.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/defense-secretary-lloyd-austin-released-from-hospital-and-expected-to-return-to-pentagon-later-this-week/ar-bb1iesur
Posted 2/14/2024 5:33 AM (GMT 0)
It was reported in the mainstream news that following his initial admission to the hospital in 2024 on Jan 01, that Biden didn't even realize he had been hospitalized until Jan 04. And this was at a time when the GAZA matter was full-on international with other ME nations and foreign para-military factions were involved either directly or indirectly in the fighting. Ukraine has always been a hotbed. A very critical point in time when things could go awry. If the reports are true that the President had no idea that his Secretary of Defense was hospitalized for three days following his admission - it makes me wonder how much influence or relevance Austin really has in day to day operations and who was behind the scenes pulling the strings during his silent absence. Hopefully, someone was.

Of course, the details of his illness are his business and it's his prerogative to share them with no one or with those of his choosing.

I understand Austin remains in the ICU at last report. ICU admissions don't happen unless the condition is quite serious. I wish him well and hope he recovers quickly so he can exit the hospital, recuperate and resume his duties.
Posted 2/14/2024 6:55 PM (GMT 0)
Then there are these headlines today.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/14/politics/house-intel-chairman-serious-national-security-threat/index.html
Posted 2/14/2024 7:34 PM (GMT 0)

Stephen S said...
Well we have a war in Ukraine. War in Israel. War in the Red Sea/Yemen. China continues to threaten Taiwan….

Thanks. I’ve heard of those but don’t think much about my own safety regarding them. I think the reason I asked is that I’d just come in from a long run and my running partner was relating to me a podcast he’s heard about fear and safety issues. Also, I had two different acquaintances chastise me for not carry a gun when I go on my long, solo, cross country. motorcycle trips where I stick to 2-lane roads and camp put. The idea that I should carry anything other than bear spray in bear country hadn’t occurred to me.
Posted 2/14/2024 8:01 PM (GMT 0)
You know, guys, let's keep the political sniping out of this thread. He is a guy who had prostate surgery--and maybe more--and we exist as a group to provide support.
Posted 2/14/2024 9:00 PM (GMT 0)
For whatever this is worth.

Maybe it's just news gossip, or speculation.

But the Newsmax TV channel just claimed today (Wed., Feb 14, 3:45PM) that the "serious military capability" that Russia has been reported as having, is an imminent launch into space of a satellite capable of firing a nuclear warhead rocket against either other satellites in space, or against any target on earth.

True?

If so, no doubt we will be hearing a good deal more about this in upcoming news reports.

(Sorry if this is starting to slip into the political. For that reason I'm saying no more about it).
Posted 2/15/2024 5:14 PM (GMT 0)

fiddlecanoe said...
I'd like to know why he opted for surgery over radiation for his prostate treatment..

i'd like to know why any sane man opts for surgery but i suspect it's because we are scared as hell and our first point of contact is a surgeon, who tells us: "if surgery doesn't work we have radiation to fall back on but you can't have surgery after radiation"
Posted 2/15/2024 5:44 PM (GMT 0)
<< our first point of contact is a surgeon >>

And that surgeon may be drumming up business because he has 5 kids and they all need braces.
Posted 2/15/2024 6:05 PM (GMT 0)

81GyGuy said...
....But the Newsmax TV channel just claimed today...

Some media outlets are in the business of selling fear. On the radio that this is quite common and one notices that when they break away to a commercial those spots tell you to convert retirement assets into gold, to buy months supply of food, buy firearms, not to mention worthless pain relief pitches.
Posted 2/15/2024 9:52 PM (GMT 0)
I don't think anyone has overstepped their bounds in this thread into the political realm. But it feels to me like it's come close at times. So just a friendly reminder, let's keep it on the straight and narrow meaning don't step up to the line and cross it.
(don't ask me where the line is, its a very fine line ;-) )
Posted 2/15/2024 11:21 PM (GMT 0)
Here's a list of things we don't know about his treatment:

1. What his actual initial treatment was.
2. What his diagnosis was.
3. What led to his complications (2 stays in critical care is something really serious)
4. How he was diagnosed (biopsy MRI PSMA etc)
5. Why he chose his treatment

Speculating about ANY of it--or assigning reasons for it, or questioning his intelligence or his sanity is all out of bounds. Isn't it?
Posted 2/15/2024 11:59 PM (GMT 0)

halbert said...
...Speculating about ANY of it--or assigning reasons for it, or questioning his intelligence or his sanity is all out of bounds. Isn't it?

I would say so.
Posted 2/16/2024 1:15 AM (GMT 0)
The intriguing part, he might be browsing the site here anytime!

There is a reasonable chance he might find us.
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