New member with question

Hi kwb,

I think I would ask for a do-over on the meridian stress assessment machine. It is just as likely there was a bad connection, a malfunction of the stress equipment, or human error in the interpretation as anything else.

Although the PSA test is not a black and white test, the two back to back tests you had is a pretty good indicator of a great prostate. At your age a reading of less than 1.0 is really good.

You should have a PSA test once a year just to stay on top of things. If there is an upward change you would want to get a test more often, as recommended by a urologist.

Go out and play.

Dave

Thank you guys for the input. Selmer, my father died of lung cancer (smoked for 60 years), but my mothers brother died of prostate cancer last november. Hence my concern. His son, my first cousin has prostate cancer and has done the radium seed implant. He is five years older than I am.

The homeopathic Dr I see has in fact had some great results with cancer victims. Personal friends I know very well were sent home to die from MD Anderson, (given 6 months), and have completely recovered on this doctors regimen. Md Anderson has given them a clean bill of health. I am not defending her, just saying why I even give her credibility. I am personally acquainted with three people with at least two diagnoses from cancer centers that are healthy and cancer free after her regimen.

Her contention is that the MSA test picks up cancer at the cellular level before it shows up in other blood or serum tests. I also read that some men have Prostate cancer and have a low PSA. I am trying to be proactive and careful just to make sure.

Again, thanks for all the input.

My first move if I were you would be to dispense with the quacks and their pseudo-science quackery. Base your thoughts on sound medical and scientific principles. On one hand a quack with an airy-fairy electrical device makes a decision about your state of health and gives you a diagnosis of cancer. On the other hand a trained medical professional gives you the result of a blood test which shows low PSA for your age and a physical that indicates no irregularities are felt on your prostate. Who you should believe is a no-brainer. Don't accept the mumbo-jumbo about about "picking up cancer at the cellular level before it shows up in other blood or serum tests", but ask precisely how it accomplishes this and then watch the fast shoe shuffle. Rejoice in your good health.

Bill

Bill,

Don't dismiss what you know nothing about. My husband has had complimentary cancer treatment as has my closest friend who is currently finishing her last radiation treatment with not a bit of burn. I use a natural medication that frankly, keeps me ALIVE, because I am unable to safely take anything else. So what does one do when traditional methods are as deadly as the disease if left untreated? Dispense with the quackery and make plans to be one with mother earth? We use more alternatives than we do traditional remedies but realize, like all things, there are limits.

I've seen more instances of 'professionals" who have all the bells and whistles kill, or contribute to the death of a whole lot of people in my field. Trust me...it only takes a split second incorrect decision to manage death. Incorrect does not make it wrong in most cases though. Since medicine is not an exact science there will be those misses on occasion. There have been quite a few men in here over the last 4 years who, in my opinion, may not be making the right decision based on their clinical diagnosis but, it is their body and their decision. I think radiating/subjecting one's body with unecessary testing for example, is stupid. But, if it makes a person feel more confident and lets a him/her rest easy...go for it! The radiation is only affecting the body at its cellular level ; >)

Swim

Dear kwb:

I will refrain from criticizing alternative therapies as there is probably a place for them in certain situations.  But, I must admit, my sympathies on this subject lie more along the lines of what Selmer and BillyMac said.

In any case, there is certainly no scientific evidence that this machine can diagnose prostate cancer and I would doubt that most medical professional, homeopathic or not, would make such a claim.

Your stats are excellent and I would certainly not recommend subjecting yourself to a biopsy with these results.  If you are worried, however, why not make an appointment with a urologist and discuss the issue.  Perhaps PSA testing and a DRE every 6 months would make you more comfortable...

If had been me with those stats I would have been rejoicing and PCa would have been the last thing on my mind...

Tudpock

kwb

I would skip the biopsy unless you really want that pain. The one that I had, also gave me a hemorrhoid which I never had before. The results were pretty much as expected. My PSA had jumped in a year and the DRE confirmed a nodule/lump. 6 of the 12 cores were positive, with a Gleason of 8 and 9. My father was diagnosed at the age of 70. A cousin on my mother's side beat me on the surgery by one year but he is 5 years younger.

Swim...you made me laugh...just the thought of a dentist and a DRE or a stove for that matter....gave me a chuckle

Now I also agree...the holistic approach and traditional therapies do go hand in hand...you must look at both for any given situation. I have seen too many people put their cancer in remission using the alternative therapies (my sister for one) to not believe they have their merit. But...it still needs the advice and treatment through traditional methods as well for them to be totally effective.

All things are possible, and no one person has all the answers, but I tend to think along the lines of Billy Mac, Tudpock, and Selmer. I do not believe for one minute that this alledged machine can detect or define cancers, something is not right in that story. Sounds like snake oil peddling in high tech form. Whatever works for a person, as long as they are comfortable and its right in their mind and heart, then so be it, its their life and their body and their decision.

David in sC

I want to say thanks for each and every post. Your posts are helping me sort through all this. I am going to my MD on monday with a friend and his wife who just had the psa3 test and is going to get the doctor's opinion. I think I will take the results the homeopathic doctor gave me from the four tests she has done and explain it all to him and see what he thinks.

I do agree with the concept of listening to a specialist who does this kind of thing all day every day. This prostate doctor I will see monday is the pioneer in the robotic surgery in my area (Seattle/Tacoma). I will seek his opinion and go with that.

Again, to just say thanks seems pretty inadequate to all of you for taking the time to post, but it sure is helping me.

KWB