Glenn, As I wrote that I was thinking , Well this poster cares,so............ It wasn't meant as flippant, meant it as a cliche and honestly, with the anesthesia example, felt it was true. I should have listened to that voice, it was there for a reason....... Apologies in todays world are all becoming suspect, because of the politco's, but I am sorry. I'm trying hard, real hard to get better in this area, Aloha, Logo