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Posted 5/11/2011 6:54 AM (GMT 0)
Do you know of any known relationship or a research of this?
(I'm looking for a connection between the two, like G7-> PSA elevation of 2 each year or so...)

Thanks in advance!
Posted 5/11/2011 6:59 AM (GMT 0)
I've looked at a lot of PSAV and PSADT research and have not seen anything specifically along the lines you mentioned. PSA velocity is very meaningful in some situations but the meaning depends on the baseline. Obviously a move from 20 to 22 in 6 months is very different from a move of 3 to 5 in six months. After primary treatment by RP or radiation, PSA DT is more relevant that PSAV.
Posted 5/11/2011 11:37 AM (GMT 0)
Why didn't you reply to your other threads on about pathology and microscoping slides?????????????????????????????????????????????
Posted 5/11/2011 4:33 PM (GMT 0)
There is a definate relationship between Gleason, psa and tumor size and there are formulas for each gleason grade and the psa generated per cc of tumor.
PSADT reflects how fast the tumor is growing, a PSADT of two years means the tumor is doubling in size every two years without regard to it's gleason grade.
JohnT
Posted 5/12/2011 6:38 AM (GMT 0)
Bravo Zufus!
Posted 5/12/2011 11:26 PM (GMT 0)
Higher Gleason may actually produce less PSA, such as a 9 or 10, so one could actually see an inverse relationship. The higher the Gleason, the lower the velocity.

Goodlife
Posted 5/13/2011 11:11 AM (GMT 0)
Tom- are you shy or a mole or a gamesmen? This is the 3rd post I have seen from you using 2 forums and I emailed you directly on the pathology question with my phone number too. So are you real, fictious, mischevious or what?????????????????

People are not happy responding and getting Elvis'es 'Return to Sender' (LOL)
Posted 5/13/2011 11:55 PM (GMT 0)
Just insensitive and now he will never admit it. Sorry Mods, somethings really need to be said, we are not someones personal google engine. Its called dialog not monolog as in, oh never mind...... turn
Posted 5/13/2011 11:59 PM (GMT 0)
Hey, I got it, He said Thanks in advance , I guess that covers it!!??!! TomZ cause you are on such a great forum, we will continue to answer your posts, that just the kinda guys we are. Zufus you are a bad influence on me in a good way. lol
Posted 5/14/2011 2:24 PM (GMT 0)
It's not necessary to get snippy, guys. There may be a good reason why you are having a one-ended conversation. :-) Maybe he posts questions and waits a week or more to come back and see how many answers he got? We don't know... :-)
Posted 5/14/2011 2:30 PM (GMT 0)
Roger that!
Posted 5/14/2011 5:11 PM (GMT 0)
Hey guys,


zufus, I didn't know that I need to reply to other threads when I ask a new question. sorry.. I didn't see your email, maybe because of many SPAM I receive. Will look for it.

Since my diagnose, I'm reading all the time on the net, searching with Google and doing whatever I can to help myself.

I'm fighting the only 2 hospitals in my country - Israel - that are doing an Endorectal MRI. Now I'm in trouble because I don't know what to do:
- Surgery now, without MRI, and hope for good
- Wait (don't know how long, maybe half a year) to MRI, and then decide what to do (surgery or hormons)

Thank you all for your other responses! Really helped me !!!!!
You are really good people, and I sincerely thank you.
Posted 5/14/2011 11:33 PM (GMT 0)
Thats cool , our brother, we love you scool
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