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Posted 5/15/2011 2:54 PM (GMT 0)
Sounds like a legit study, so I guess it's worth noting..

"Men who ate a median of two or more servings per week of grilled or barbecued hamburgers or other red meat that was well done or very well done had a twofold increased odds of advanced PCa compared with individuals who did not eat hamburgers or other red meat, Dr. Punnen reported at the American Urological Association 2011 annual meeting."

http://www.renalandurologynews.com/eating-barbecued-hamburgers-well-done-may-raise-risk-of-advanced-prostate-cancer/article/202881/

Good thoughts go out to all of you from Cape Cod!

Posted 5/15/2011 3:30 PM (GMT 0)
I'll have mine rare please! ;-)

Enjoy the sunshine. Remember to wear sunscreen. There is a study that shows the chance of melanoma....

Jeff (where it's 47 degrees, rainy with wind.)
Posted 5/15/2011 4:35 PM (GMT 0)
Just a few days ago I saw a news story that said the MRSA and salmonella bacteria are often found in raw meat. If well done meat increases the risk of cancer and if bacteria can survive in meat that is not thoroughly cooked, I wonder what the risk is in medium-well done meats. smhair
Posted 5/15/2011 4:46 PM (GMT 0)
Interesting --- especially as my daily lunch is a well done bacon cheeseburger (without a bun so kinife and fork.) I find this lunch of high protein and few carbs, helps keep my weight down and is warm, filling, and after one poached egg for breakfast, keeps me going until dinner with lots of energy. Another great advantage is that I eat at a Caterpillar company subsidized cafeteria just down the road (which welcomes outside business) and lunch, with coffee, is less than $5.

I'm thinking God may be telling me to drive the extra mile and hit the Kentucky Fried and do crispy chicken, not crispy beef. Hmmmmm? By the way, back when I was a newspaper reporter in a different life, I interviewed Colonel Sanders one time. The guy was more of a caricature in real life than the drawing on the box.

Here's to chicken !

Sheldon AKA Sleepless
Posted 5/15/2011 4:53 PM (GMT 0)
I love to BBQ, but don't do it that often (if you include winters here in Michigan, it's not often at all).

The FEW times I do burgers, I make them well-done. I always have, due to the threat of salmonella.

Anyway, my favorite is BBQ salmon. Delicious. Healthy, too, I THINK.

Mel

Posted 5/15/2011 4:53 PM (GMT 0)
"I wonder what the risk is in medium-well done meats."

A disappointed spouse - and that is statistically way more significant for QOL issues than the remote chance of salmonella. ;-)

Jeff (Willing to go medium rare but still eating sashimi.)
Posted 5/15/2011 4:57 PM (GMT 0)
Cavemen cooked their meat over open fires..Char-broiled to the max...They must have been racked with prostate cancer.. But wait...They only lived to be 30-35, so not a problem!

Cape Cod..Wind and cold rain....Let me know when it's Summer!
Posted 5/15/2011 5:02 PM (GMT 0)
and if you eat it rare, you are at high risk for food poisoning. i still say, eat what you want, the way you want.
Posted 5/15/2011 5:13 PM (GMT 0)
I am amongst the Medium lovers of the world. So I guess I pay my money and takes my chances.

Besides, I have Pca, iand it doesn't seem like it wants to go away no matter what. I'll keep enjoying the red meat (although only occasionally) and living the Every Day is A Bonus mentality.

I will however spread the word to those friends of mine that maybe they should lighten up on the burn it to a crisp thing.

Sonny
Posted 5/15/2011 5:41 PM (GMT 0)
I thought this was fairly common connection with many cancers. Marinade or precook the meat eliminates many of the carcinogenics. It's the searing of the high heat that creates it, from my understanding.
Posted 5/15/2011 7:48 PM (GMT 0)
You can get the worst of both worlds too. If meat is cooked too quickly then the outside is black and carcinogenic and the inside is raw and will give you food poisoning.
I have had a long think and cannot remember when i last went to a barbecue, let alone had one of my own. I don't mind eating outside (sometimes), but I like to cook in a kitchen.

Alf
Posted 5/15/2011 8:57 PM (GMT 0)
The bacteria are on the outside. If you grind meat into hamburger, it spreads the bacteria throughout the meat, so don't eat underdone hamburgers. Just take a steak, cook it briefly to sterilize the outside, and you are all set, no bacteria, no carcinogens, just your basic fatty rare red meat.
Posted 5/15/2011 9:14 PM (GMT 0)
 

I just heard about a study that proved that underweight caucasian  men who had a nanny whose father handled left handed lobsters while drinking strong ale have a major indicator for Gleason 8 prostate cancer at some time in their lives.  devil

Beware..... smhair

 

Posted 5/15/2011 9:28 PM (GMT 0)
The reality is that just about everything we do, eat, drink, breath has the potential to cause us serious harm...we're told don't eat eggs, then we're told eggs are good for you; drink reduced fat milk, now we hear that 2% milk is almost as bad as whole milk; don't eat meat because it's not good for your arteries but eliminating red meat from your diet can create a deficiency in the B vitamins; don't spend too much time in the sun but now we're faced with a major segment of the population experiencing vitamin D insufficiency. I've come to the conclusion that if you pay attention to all the studies that are coming out and live as they suggest, you might as well seal yourself up in a plastic bag. We have seen too many times how the scientific community has reversed itself - what is good today may not be good tomorrow.

Reminds me of an old Woody Allen movie (Sleeper), where he wakes up in the future to find out that everything he was told was bad (bacon, cigarettes) are actually good for you.

I'm with Purgatory on this one.
Posted 5/15/2011 9:44 PM (GMT 0)

lifeguyd said...
 

I just heard about a study that proved that underweight caucasian  men who had a nanny whose father handled left handed lobsters while drinking strong ale have a major indicator for Gleason 8 prostate cancer at some time in their lives.  devil

Beware..... smhair

OMG! I'm doomed!

Posted 5/15/2011 10:08 PM (GMT 0)
Sheldon if you go to KFC get one of those double over sandwiches and let us know if it raises the risk of a heart attack.
Michael
Posted 5/15/2011 10:47 PM (GMT 0)
If you follow this rule, it will seem like you've lived a long time regardless.

If it tastes good, don't eat it. If it feels good, don't do it. :-)

Y'all hang in there...

Garth
Posted 5/16/2011 1:12 AM (GMT 0)
Is it okay to eat salad? My burgers are medium well, my steaks are medium rare, my fish is flaky, my barbecue is fall-off- the- bone, my soup is hot as hades, my tacos are not greasy, my pizza is delicious, my egg salad is my grandson's favorite, my ice is frozen, my back is sore, my prostate is gone, my beard needs trimming, I need a nap, I'm reading a good book, the NHL playoffs are on, the Royals are playing over their heads, the NFL is still locked out, American Idol is still not a show I watch, I'm not on Facebook, I don't tweet (deep breath), my punctuation is fine, I still use a pencil and paper, I go to work everyday, I cut my own grass, my wife still loves me, my kids still ask for advice, I go to my grandchildren's games, I look both ways before I cross the street, I don't curse in front of women and children, I try to smile at everyone I meet, I hold the door open for ladies (be sure and say thank you), I am aware that God is keeping a close eye on me...Is there anything else ? I'm going to go watch the game now. Thanks for letting me vent.

Bob
Posted 5/16/2011 2:08 AM (GMT 0)
I don't know why we continue to argue this point. As a wise man once said " you cannot change someone's position by logic when that position was never arrived at by logic." Diet and supplements are emotional positions that require a certain belief or disbelief. If you don't believe in them then don't take them. There is sufficient evidence that support both sides of the diet/supplement arguement so it boils down to a mattter of which you believe. There is a huge body of research on how people arrive at decisions and the vast majority of people arrive at decisions through feeling what is right and do not go through a complex process of researching all sides and reaching an unbiased decision.
JT
Posted 5/16/2011 2:20 AM (GMT 0)

lifeguyd said...
I just heard about a study that proved that underweight caucasian men who had a nanny whose father handled left handed lobsters while drinking strong ale have a major indicator for Gleason 8 prostate cancer at some time in their lives. [img]/community/emoticons/devil.gif[/img]



Beware..... [img]/community/emoticons/smhair.gif[/img]

Well, at least now I have an explanation!!!
Posted 5/16/2011 2:28 PM (GMT 0)
"Men who ate a median of two or more servings per week of grilled or barbecued hamburgers....

 

I wanna know what the difference is between grilled and BBQ'd hamburgers. 

Is it a grilled burger with BBQ sauce idea   And if so, is it the burning of the sauce or the meat that's bad for you?

And for those of us that no longer have a prostate...can't we cook it well done?!?!?!?

I still like the way Woody Herrelson said it in the movie Cowboy Way: "Oh, Just Knock Its Horns Off, Wipe Its Nasty Axx, and Chunk It Right Here on this Plate!"

Posted 5/16/2011 10:46 PM (GMT 0)
I don't have a prostate anymore, so I guess I can eat all of the well done hamburgers I want!
Posted 5/17/2011 3:22 AM (GMT 0)
Ralph,

That was too funny,

Fact is, we start to die after we are born. Hard to say how much control we have over the final date. To the well done hamburgers, add chemical filled drinking water, polluted air, pesticides, etc., etc.

Until that date, pass me the medium hunk of beef.

Goodlife
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