Bimix? Trimix? Sudafed?

     OK, I just got my first perscription of Bimix and I'm going to try it this weekend. It says I sould use .75 m to 1.0 m. I will start off at .75. Is this a good place to start?

     I have read that some of you use around .2 or .3 of trimix. 

Is trimix stronger than bimix?  

     I have also heard about using sudafed if I have a problem.   Is there a certain strength I should get?  Pills or Gell tablets?

     I hope you guys can help me out.

Thanks

That is way to much to start! Start at .1ml / 10units. Then work your way up. Ask for 31 gauge syringes. They are 5/16ths long and you can get them in 50 or 100 units. I would recommend starting with 50 unit syringes as they are easier to read.

Trimix is not stronger, it just has a 3rd ingredient that makes it more effective. (so in a way, it could be considered stronger)

Dr.s prescribe different strengths of the mix, so the amount you inject really depends on the mix.

Most popular Bimix is
30mg Papaverine
1 mg Phentoiamine

Most popular Trimix is the same but add
10 mcg PEG1

That PEG1 can cause an annoying ache in some men.

Be sure to get sudafed from behind the counter at the pharmacy. Not the stuff kids can buy.

Also, there are instructions available for you to take with you, if you have to go the ER for an erection lasting more than 4 hours in case your local ER is inexperienced. Make no mistake, that would be a medical emergency as you could damage willy to the point of never working again.

Ok: I used the very mildist form of BiMix (0.5 / 5) (my compounding pharmacy had 8 different proportions) and the most I ever really needed was 0.23 ml.  At 0.26 mm (cc), I had a 4 hour + erection and was on the way to the ER.  Start out purposely too low and then SLOWLY work your way up.  I think that you are using way too much in starting injections.

To give others hope:

With total ED, I started Bimix at 6 months post surgery...worked great.  Used Bimix up to about 14 months post surgery.  At 15 months, things were improving to where only 10 mg. of Cialis was needed. Now at 20 months, no aids are needed at all. Healing may take much longer that you thought or your doctor told you! Don't give up!

Bill K. from NJ

PSA 3.3, free 21%, 1 of 12 cores positive (30%), Gleason 7 (3+4), DaVinci 7/2011, Downgraded to Gleason 6, 10% involvment, contained, clear margins.   Immediate urinary control, All Ultra-sensititive PSA tests since <0.015.

JStars,

In a different thread (1 yr psa and first shot) Wessy talks about the first shot in his doctor's office.

Wessy,

You should start with the same amount as the doctor used. Sometimes it works better at home where the man is less nervous. If it still isn't enough, try going up 10% on the dose and try again in a few days. Its a good idea to try each dose twice before you go up some more and never more than 10 percent at a time.

My doctor gave me a test shot to see if I was alergic to it. Which was also weaker.

I asked him if I should come back again and give myself a shot with him and he asked me I could if I felt I needed to. I felt I could do it so he just gave me my perscrition.

I did ok with my shot but the results where not good.

Just a sidebar but my pharmacist told me that I didn't need to go to the e.r. I just needed to inject myself with neosinephrine or some other sinus spray. he said that is the antidote. You might ask.

LISTEN TO TODD1963.....

The antidote to priapism.... inject nasal spray like you did the Trimix!!

TODD1963 SAVED MY LIFE today, with his post from 2008, about injecting sinus spray if you had a boner that would NOT go down.

I foolishly injected WAY too much Quadmix (Trimix plus atropine, which locks in the blood for a long lasting erection).

I already knew about the Sudafed, and my pharmacist had told me to snort nasal spray if I had an issue... that it worked faster than Sudafed. So I had both on hand.

At 2 hours I took 6 Sudafed, and huffed about 4 inhales of sinus spray, wrapped my cock in ice, and waited.

NOTHING. I had loaded myself up with enough atropine for a horse, apparently, and nothing was working. My boner was about to POP!

I knew that some doctors also prescribed an injection antidote, but didn't bother to get one, thinking Sudafed & snorting nasal spray would fix any issues. But it wasn't.

I googled "what to do" on my phone & came across this post.... and I had the nasal spray and syringes right there.

At the 3 1/2 hour mark I injected 20 units of nasal spray & waited 15 minutes. Nothing.

At the 3:45 mark I injected another 20 units and headed for the hospital.

In the parking lot of the ER, I began to feel some relief, and 5 minutes later knew I would NOT have to walk in there with this issue.

Within 30 minutes I was deflated.

There's no telling how much pain, embarrassment and ER medical bills he saved me with that one little post.

This was my first injection... and like an idiot, when a "little" didn't show any immediate results, I used "a lot".

With the atropine as an added ingredient, my boner just kept getting tighter.

I've read it a million times on this forum... START WITH A TINY AMOUNT.

My impatience almost cost me big time.

Interesting, regarding injecting nasal spray. Meaning, for example, Afrin? And how much?

My uro was very against doing home-treatment of those more-than-4 events. He wants me in the ER where he or his partner are on call.

He tells the story of a guy who's wife was a nurse, and supposedly had it under control. Seems that she generated an implant sale after a few "events" were home-treated.

I would come to an agreement about how / what you will do with your uro. He'll be the one called out to the ER (if you are lucky).

You mean constrict right?

Ichabod said...
Constrict would make more sense, but he did say dilate.

Somebody said...
He did mean constrict. When you have nasal congestion, the release of histamine(sp?) causes the nasal vessels to dilate fully, which makes them bigger, which fills up your nose and leaves little room for air to pass. Neosynephrine and Afrin nose sprays quickly constrict those vessels, shrinking them. A very tiny amount of neosynephrine injected into your blood stream will cause blood vessels to clamp down(constrict) and shoot your blood pressure from 100 systolic to 200 or more in a minute or so.

Of course when we have a problem woody that won't go down, that is- like nasal congestion- a case of dilated vessels that won't shrink down. So what we need is some constriction.

One minute you need some dilation, a few hours later you desperately need some constriction. One extreme to the other.

I can vouch for that. I resurrected many a severely low BP with a tiny dose of Neosynephrine a hundred+ times over the years. Anesthesia folks use this routinely. We often have it already drawn up, diluted and ready to go. It usually does not last very long(which might be good if it s only some temporary something dropping BP) an has a tendency to(temporarily) cause an amazingly decrease pulse/heart rate due to a reflex associated with the rapid increase in BP(Barro reflex), but it sure will get the BP out of the dirt quickly, by constricting arteries, from 30 to 200 depending.

I just caught a typo here:
www.medicinenet.com/phenylephrine-injection/article.htm where it says

Somebody said...
Phenylephrine increases blood pressure and heart rate without affecting heart rhythm.

Nope. Not in my 36 years experience. Much more likely it drops heart rate almost as much as it raises BP, though it is short lived. I have seen many a beginner scared ****less by how much it dropped the heart rate even as BP skyrocketed. A VERY powerful drug. I figure that is a typo as not far down below it says it is used to slow down excessively fast heart rates.
We normally used ephedrine for the pregnant ladies, it kept blood going to the baby better than Neo. And of course that is the pill we suddenly not limp guys pop as the 1st rescue step. Both of these drugs are ancient, but nothing more effective had been found, as of a couple of years ago when I retired.

I was also given an ampule of epinephrine(also as ancient as a drug gets). It will probably work even better than the neo, but probably with greater risk to the heart. So if I ever get a refill, I am going to ask for some Neo.

Post Edited (BillyBob@388) : 12/22/2015 8:20:17 PM (GMT-7)

StrictlyInc said...
Interesting, regarding injecting nasal spray. Meaning, for example, Afrin? And how much?

Neosynephrine is just a brand name for Phenylephrine. I don't know what Afrin is, but there are several brands of nasal spray that are 1% Phenylephrine. Just inject about half a syringe or the stuff, the same way you injected the Trimix. It has worked for me twice. Half a syringe would be .5 units. (I currently inject .15 of the "mix").

Papavarin, Phentolomine, and Alprostadil are all "vasodilators". Ephedrine is a "vasoconstrictor".

My issue has been exaggerated because I am using Quadmix. The addition of atropine locks in the erection.... shuts of the gates tight. My boner is absolutely rock hard as a result, and as long as there is stimulation... it will NOT go down. If I take a dose of the stuff & go for an hour, then leave it to rest, it will deflate by itself in about 2 hours. But if I go on a marathon run & keep it stimulated for say... three hours, then I run the risk of passing the four hour mark. I'm certain it would go down by itself eventually, but the damage to the cellular structure can start as early as the four hour mark, so twice I have resorted to the injection of the "antidote".

It works like a charm.

Now, please don't get the idea that I'm advocating being STUPID about abusing these life-changing medicines... all I'm saying is, it's better to be prepared & have a bottle of Nasal Spray in the cabinet, and not need it.... than to get yourself in a real pickle. (pun intended).

Post Edited (Toby Welles) : 10/15/2015 10:54:12 PM (GMT-6)

Down Yonder in Dixie said...
Hey Y'all,

I have been reading these threads on the use of Bimix and Trimix for a few weeks now. I have a fresh vial in the refrigerator and have not had the "opportunity" to try it...yet, but excited to try it and a little apprehensive at the same time. My Bimix prescription is 30/1 and my doctor said to start at .20ml. I have not had any type of prostate problems, heart problems (stress test showed all was well), and some high cholesterol but usually around 220-230 total. I am in good health and not overweight. I have had issues with PE all my life and seems that this is what is causing my ED. I have tried all the pills with cialis giving the best results for a while, but not so much now. After reading all of the stories and comments, I have a renewed hope that we can get back to a normal much longer lasting sex life! Any feedback would be greatly appreciated on anything I have mentioned.

Well if you have not even had PC surgery, you will probably do spectacularly well with injections of whatever. Have fun, just start with tiny doses and work up. If you can still get anything without injections, probably just showing little Down Under the vial will get things going OK. Remember a lot of guys here who get good results are dead as a door nail without the injections. Probably all you need is a little boost. You can always add more, but you can not take it back.