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Posted 6/15/2013 9:08 PM (GMT 0)
"Tomato sauce helps prevent prostate cancer, but it's hard to slather on."

That was "Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me" from WBEZ Chicago on this:
on.wsj.com/19iHXv0
"The latest study, conducted in Chicago, used benign prostate cells from healthy human subjects. The cells were treated with either a lycopene-containing solution or a placebo for 48 hours and then analyzed for changes in protein levels. The concentration of lycopene used was comparable to blood levels in men consuming about 30 milligrams a day, the equivalent of a 7.1-ounce can of tomato sauce, researchers said...compared with placebo, lycopene had multiple anticancer and antioxidant effects on human prostate cells. "

abstract here:
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23483004
Posted 6/15/2013 9:16 PM (GMT 0)
That's one of the many supplements I've been taking for a few years.

My PSASDT was still about 3 months until I got on HT!

Mel

Posted 6/16/2013 2:43 AM (GMT 0)
Probably it would be great stuff if you could bathe your prostate in tomato sauce. No good evidence it does anything.

Here's a review article:
Lycopene, Tomato Products, and Prostate Cancer Incidence: A Review and Reassessment in the PSA Screening Era

This study (in actual people -- not just a test tube) even found that there was an increased risk associated with higher serum levels of lycopene:
Serum Lycopene Concentration and Prostate Cancer Risk: Results from the Prostate Cancer Prevention Trial

That won't keep me from using ketchup on my burgers, however.

- Allen
Posted 6/16/2013 4:31 AM (GMT 0)
Allen I can trump your data in this way...

I am Italian. ITALIAN! I have somehow managed to eat enough tomato sauce to supply Sicily for a whole hour. I got this freaking disease in a bad way.

Can somebody please pass the calamari.

Tony
Posted 6/16/2013 4:55 AM (GMT 0)
Allen,

I agree with your findings on that subject. I don't like tomato based dishes anyway, and only will eat tomatoes rarely on a hamburger or salad, and never use ketchup.

david
Posted 6/16/2013 5:33 AM (GMT 0)
Tony- LOL! Maybe you were supposed to take it as an enema.

Post Edited (Tall Allen) : 6/15/2013 11:37:21 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 6/16/2013 2:41 PM (GMT 0)
Tony, I was all over Italy last summer. Could think of about 100 reasons to have stayed there. At least 90 of them had to do with the food. Especially calamari.
Posted 6/16/2013 3:27 PM (GMT 0)
I'm a lycopene oddball.  I love Italian food, tomato juice (v8), and tomato soup...but I don't really care for tomatoes (except for the small ones)...must be a texture thing.

Generally, tomatoes, etc... are very healthy and given the choice between a V8 and a soda...I'd choose the V8...just watch your daily salt intake because the regular V8 is high in sodium.

Which always makes me wonder on these studies --- when one eats something that is healthy, they are avoiding something that may not be.  For example, when you say that fish is good for you...is it because of the fish or is it because you're not eating the red meat or a little of both...point is - is the benefit from the health stuff or the stuff you are avoiding...

Just things that make you go hmmmmm...  or in the case of spaghetti....hmmmmm hmmmmm good...

 

Posted 6/16/2013 9:58 PM (GMT 0)
Does Dr. Myers still support lycopene? I hope not because I believe the evidence has refuted its use for sometime now.

Paul
Posted 6/16/2013 10:01 PM (GMT 0)
i can give you 1000 reasons to want to live in Italy and one very good reason not to.
Posted 6/17/2013 1:24 AM (GMT 0)
Paul,

No, Dr. Myers does not tell his patients to take Lycopene...
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