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Questions to My Urologist About My 5.5 P.S.A. & His Answers
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Sammas
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Joined : Jul 2014
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Posted 8/15/2014 4:31 PM (GMT 0)
Hello, everybody.
I sent four questions to my uro yesterday about
my psa and recommending others tests vs. going straight to the biopsy. If you don't mind, I would love to share what was said between him and I. Here are my questions and his answers. I would love to know your thoughts.
1. My lab result says my PSA is 5.5. I’m 40 years old. How many cases have you seen in your experience, where a patient who’s 40 years old, with a PSA level of 5.5 diagnosed with prostate cancer?
See about
2 patients a year in their 40's who have prostate cancer - any patient with high PSA has 30-35% chance of having prostate cancer.
2. I understand that my PSA is 5.5 and that is pretty high. Why didn’t you rule out other causes of an elevated PSA prior to rushing into a biopsy? Such as testing for an infection, a course of antibiotics?
No evidence for infection on urine sample and prostate exam. No longer recommended to give antibiotics for elevated PSA without clinical infection, as more resistant bacteria and problems with post-biopsy infections.
3. Why didn’t you offer a test for free PSA? From my understanding many doctors recommend biopsies for men whose percent-free PSA is 10% or less, and advise that men consider a biopsy if it is between 10% and 25%.
No value to free-PSA in men who have not had prior biopsy, as only 20% of time is free in "safe" range, most of the time in indeterminate range.
4. How soon after the biopsy must I take the second dose of Ciprofloxacin?
That evening.
5. Is there a relationship between low vitamin D and prostate cancer?
Indirect evidence - those living closer to equator have lower incidence of prostate cancer. Sunlight exposure = higher vit D from skin. Vit D at high doses however, may increase prostate cancer risk.
John T
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Posted 8/15/2014 5:38 PM (GMT 0)
The questions you didn't ask:
Why didn't you recommend an MP-MRI instead of a biopsy?
Why didn't you recommend a PCA3?
What is the estimated size of my prostate when you gave me the DRE?
What is my estimated psa density?
His answers to your questions were reasonable.
Sammas
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Joined : Jul 2014
Posts : 159
Posted 8/15/2014 6:10 PM (GMT 0)
John T said...
The questions you didn't ask:
Well, John, I'm not as much of an expert in these type situations as you are. So, I didn't know what I was missing out on. Thank you for your input. Maybe next time, I'll ask him those questions.
bluebird123
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Joined : Aug 2012
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Posted 8/15/2014 6:11 PM (GMT 0)
I don't understand your doctor's response to question #3. What does having a prior biopsy have to do with whether the results of a free PSA test are relevant or not. My husband had his PSA taken before he was diagnosed with PCa. His free PSA was taken at the same time. When his free PSA came in at 9% I knew that there was a good probability that he had cancer. He had never had a previous biopsy.
My husband had his biopsy done because he had a PSA of 5.2 though. I learned about
what the free PSA was after his biopsy was performed, but before received the biopsy results. After I read about
free PSA online, I found the result on his PSA report. So while it did not figure in the decision of whether or not to have a biopsy, I was prepared for the bad results when they came in.
Tall Allen
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Posted 8/15/2014 7:22 PM (GMT 0)
bluebird,
I agree with you. % free PSA is indicated
before
a first biopsy. Still better is the new PHI test that includes PSA, % free PSA and -2ProPSA. It is somewhat less ambiguous than % free PSA.
PCA3, on the other hand, is only indicated
after
a first negative biopsy. Insurance won't cover it before a first biopsy.
More importantly, other causes of PSA increase, especially BPH and prostatitis, should be eliminated before rushing into a biopsy. This is especially true with a negative DRE.
- Allen
gearloose
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Joined : Nov 2013
Posts : 91
Posted 8/16/2014 8:18 AM (GMT 0)
What Vit D now bad what's up with that
hrpufnstuf
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Joined : Mar 2012
Posts : 590
Posted 8/16/2014 12:06 PM (GMT 0)
I agree with JohnT, re the mpMRI. I wish I had done that rather than the saturation biopsy. If I "really" have Gleason 6, 1mm cancer, there's no reason for me to know it. I'll see what else they find next week when I have the mpMRI.
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