The brief passage below is a copy/paste of a podcast I recently listened to which may be of broader interest at this site based on HW member comments in various threads about
their own understanding (or skepticism) of the
advancement of science, and the scientific process. HW/PC examples might be comments about
the effectiveness of a new chemo drug, or a new test or MRI, or of Pomegranate extract, or Vitamin D supplementation, or even one’s understanding or trust of science in general. For anyone who has not already closed their mind on this topic, this passage may be enlightening, or maybe educational…
The broad topic of the podcast was
“This idea must die.” To set the stage, the podcast
opening comment went like this:
“It’s exciting to hear about ideas, especially new ones. There’s a progression that happens when you hear a new idea. You run it through your brain, try to envision where an idea might lead. Who’ll benefit from it? Who’ll it hurt? Will it be worth the cost? Is it legal? Is it morally defensible? Is it, in fact, a good idea? Today’s episode is about ideas but we run that progression in reverse. Rather than asking if a new idea is a good one, we ask [what ideas from the past should be ‘put to rest’ because they may actually be impeding progress.]” (Brackets indicate my paraphrasing of a more lengthy passage.)
In the hour-long podcast, there were about
10 various contributors who spoke of different ideas they thought should be "retired;" I have copied/pasted most of what just one contributor said (from the transcript
):
__________
The idea that I think maybe is due for a rest – you notice I said it “needs to take a rest”, I didn’t say it needed to “die” – is the idea that things are either true or false.
And I know that’s kind of an impertinent thing to say. And it sounds stupid. But what I mean by it is the idea that something is either true or false for all time and in all respects.
I think about this because when I was being taught to think in school, I was taught that the first rule of logic is that a thing cannot both be and not be at the same time and in the same respect. And that last part, in the same respect, really has a lot to do with it because something is determined to be true through research. And then further research finds out that it’s only true under certain conditions or that there are other factors that are involved.
And here’s a very interesting example. A lot of people were interested, I know I was interested, when I read that red wine was good for you. And at first, we might have even though the more red wine the better. Look at all that antioxidant stuff going into it. But it was a terrible disappointment sometime later when some other scientists said, you know, under certain conditions red wine could be not so good for you. And again, there’s this other thing that it might be really great for mice and less good for us.
But what really disturbs me is when the public decides that that means that science can’t make up its mind, or that scientists are just making things up. Some people actually do think that. Some people think the findings in science are hogwash because if one day they say one thing and the next day they say another thing it sounds like they just are taking wild guesses at things, when in fact, the progress of science is just that. You go deeper and deeper, you open up one door and you find another hundred doors that have locks on them that you have to figure out the combination for.
And I personally find it exciting to see what we thought we understood to be contradicted, but I don’t think the public has enough of a grasp of how science is done, how it’s based on evidence. When you say this is true, in the mind of the person receiving that information, they’re going to accept it as true for all time, under all circumstances, unless you warn them that things might change in the future.
We might learn more about this. That shift in the frame of reference is something that ought to be allowed for. I want to see science prosper. I want to see evidential thinking be the norm for the public as it is for scientists. So my suggestion that we alter the way we talk about things being true or false is really to help in the communication of science so that people don’t get confused.__________
So, keep this in mind. Everything is not just a “1” or a “0,” or just true or false, especially amongst the topics of scientific discovery we like to talk about
here at HW/PC.
The podcast was on a Freakonomics Radio show, dated March 5, 2015. The contributor that made the comments above was actor & writer Alan Alda. Alda is best known from the epic TV series M*A*S*H, but he as a long-held passion for science. He is currently visiting professor at the Center for Communicating Science at Stony Brook University where they train scientists to talk about
their work so that ordinary people can better understand it.
Post Edited (NKinney) : 9/23/2015 9:36:02 AM (GMT-6)