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Posted 4/21/2016 6:00 PM (GMT 0)
My former GP{he moved} knew of my intense exercise routine and never tested for albumin leakage. I switched to new GP who ,tho knowing that I exercised "a lot ", did without my knowledge{that is not an issue specifically} The issue is that that my first blood test with her showed a big increase, which she said we would monitor.OK 6 mod later the test was elevated even higher.{during that time I increased cardio to a very intensity and longevity} She never mentioned exercise as a possible cause. She wants me to have echograam/sonagram?? and a referral to kidney specialist. So I reenforced to her about the intensity of my exercise, which really didn't impress her{ it wasn't meant to…I even told her the info was evidence of knowledge, not fame,... I was not bragging} This impressed her less lol. Bottom line here... I have researched exercise induced proteinuria{ leakage of albumin fro kidneys} and have discovered it is benign and self resolves within 24hours.. I do hi intensity exercise daily with a day off every 10 days or so. Proteinuria{not exercise induced} is usually associated with Diabetes,highblood pressure, and something else which I forget,but it can all lead ro kidney disease...non exercise kine is a symptom of such and need treatment. Be advised my kidney function is fine based on the latest blood work as well as liver and the rest of the stuff. As fate would have it, A GP I had 24 years ago has come out of retirement and will hook up with him…he is about my age. He has his own practice…not a medical group which is where I go now.. My insurance allows me to go anywhere. But Kaiser and this medical group are becoming the only game in town. Big time medic shortage on Maui. Thanks ahead of time, as usual, I probably go into more detail than needed…none the less I am specifically reaching out to others who have or still do hi intensity exercise, i.e. marathon, biking, triathlon etc. If any have experienced proteinuria and could share any knowledge or taughts of such...
I have always know about hematuria in well trained athletes of which I am but proteinuria is a new one.. Tanks huh!! I won't be editing this unless I feel the context of sp mistakes etc does not reveal,,
Posted 4/21/2016 6:14 PM (GMT 0)
I exercise frequently, but mine is likely caused by Zytiga. Had a couple of UTI's but none in 4-5 months.
Michael
Posted 4/21/2016 6:32 PM (GMT 0)

Bozolidat said...
I have researched exercise induced proteinuria {leakage of albumin fro kidneys} and and have discovered it is benign and self resolves within 24hours.


It is benign IF it is shown to resolve itself within 24 hours. Did you repeat testing after several days without intense exercising to differentiate between transient and persistent proteinuria? From your description, it doesn't sound like this has been done yet. It probably doesn't matter which doc you go to, as long as they try, first, to look for the benign case via this 2-test protocol.
Posted 4/21/2016 8:38 PM (GMT 0)
trudat JackH and I suggested that to her, and she did agree, but she still wanted all the tests any way which gets into a subject that has bee beaten to death here,,,the good insurance get it while we can factor. Anyway I intend to do just that, take rest, cancel appointments she made…make appointment with my old GP out of retirement and retest the urine. She is also a DO{ some kine holistic}practioner but a fully qualified MD} Her style is a bit to laser like focuse for me………..I am extremely sure it is exercise induced and somewhat of a chance em kine guy, but in this case…I know my limits. I sense that you may not have had any experience with this yourself but you definitely gleaned the next step correctly from the context[on point} I was hopeing to hear…and may still …from some of the posters who do endurance type and may have experienced the proeinuria first hand.
On another note I want to tell you, that I had you on ignore{ i rarely do that…now there's an ego induced statement} I judged you wrong, I say this, not because of how you helped me…tho you did…but simply because you reached out… I like that in a human being!!! Im wrapped fairly tight and need to settle but don't' want to lose my eye in the sky in the process. Again …Much Aloha JackH cry joy
Posted 4/21/2016 10:25 PM (GMT 0)
Update : I am off to emergency room as I was also diagnosed with a uti which my GP was not aware of till the morning of my appointment , tho the urine test was received by here office a full week before said appt. It is no where near being resolved with the antibiotic she gave me. Interestingly enough I have no symptoms other than pressure on the bladder. The antibiotic administered was sulfamethoxazole-tmp known to develop resistance to uti tho is a drug that is administered for the uti but has a high chance of being resisted by same. I t is known to be found and in ocean water fecal matter. I need to cover my cuts better. Not looking forward to it due to all the tests they will administer and if resistant will be in a restricted room. Fortunately My medicare and secondary blu cross federal plan will cover every thing which of coarse means every test will they can justify will be taken. I will keep you up dated if iPhone is allowed in hospital. Honk honk wish me luck PS enterobacto cloacae complex is the uti. keep your minds clean researchers devil
Posted 4/22/2016 1:04 AM (GMT 0)
Good luck Bozo. I hope it all resolves quickly for you.
Posted 4/22/2016 1:27 AM (GMT 0)
Ok So I decided to give the antibiotic more time. Upon reflection I realized that by continuing with intense exercise, knowing that I had an infection and on antibiotics, was really stupid. I sweat buckets when I workout and
was working against myself…reckon we all do that in different metaphorical ways at times. Sweat was probably leaking antibiotics plus the natural stress of said exercise can not help the immune system help due its jub along side. So I have decided to add 48 hours of total rest hopefully killing 2 birds at one time…time for antibiotic to work and also to test the proteinuria after 72 hours of total rest. If leakage is still high then it may not be exercise induced…tho the infection, if not cleared up by that time is still a factor for a non kidney related leakage of albumin. It was the fact that I have felt fine during this whole process that I mistakenly continued exercise. I find the whole situation interesting in how the two different processes have become linked in a rhythmical way. But then again I could only reveal the how of that in a poem that i have not written…even then…it would be only chimera of a tell. Thanks for the ear…it helps to try…to try IS to do…Frick Yoda...
Posted 4/22/2016 1:51 AM (GMT 0)
Bozo,

Best wishes. I would guess that the Bactrim will do its job and you will be back to your work outs soon.
Posted 4/22/2016 3:24 AM (GMT 0)
Its minor Im sure…I must be bored to create such a hub bub… you be right about the workouts. Can't wait to get back to where I was…er, uh I mean where Im going…Mahalo...
Posted 4/22/2016 3:34 AM (GMT 0)
Good luck to lidat formerly known as logos.
Posted 4/22/2016 3:03 PM (GMT 0)
wishing you well...
Posted 4/22/2016 6:38 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks gentle men all..
OK…not sure where to start, so I will do what I always do in those instantances…start…and let the muses of my mind teach me. First of all the proteinuria issue is still up in the air. The UTI has been resolved. I did in fact go to the emergency room…it was crowded and the wait was long…and like us all my mind was working overtime all for naught. The infection is gone…the bactrim did its job RCS.. Having said that and knowing of my pca history, the doctor was concerned about my voiding issue, thinking my bladder was not voiding and being stopped up by the anastomosis… I waited a long long time in the examining room as the doctor got involved in a life and death situation with another patient. As it turned out he was stabilizing a patient with renal failure and considered mr high risk based on how I presented. He went right to work with an ultra sound wheeled in by his trusted nurse, embylically tethered to a wagon platform with dis and dat as she typed away his vocal narration of every thing he saw. It was truly a delight to observe them in action…results kidneys normal…bladder normal and voided. This coupled with clean urine led him to say to me..OK we got all this now what do we do about the bladder pressure I was experiencing…why. I "innocently" suggested anxiety…and he was funny when he said…Im a doctor of internal medicine, not physchiatry. I laughed as he went on and mentioned different things i could follow up with GP re possible nocturia What was so interesting once he resolved all my issues except the pressure. My anxiety went away and I $hit you not…so did the pressure.. He left smiling…

epitaph… I am giving my GP a third chance as I know she will give me a second one.. As Im sure you can imagine, it takes resolve to handle my neuroses { and each others in all our daily adventures} To try is to do…damm I like that taught. I will provide another urine sample to GP and hopefully resolve the proteinuria issue favorably…It aint kidney related though. Oh and I know I talk a good story about anxiety, positive thinking, faith, hope but as you can see I became a victim of it.. Should I now stop and not "Try" any more…Nay if we all had to be perfect to talk positively about the negative... The violins of the muses would cease to vibrate and violent stillness would fill the void..


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Posted 4/22/2016 6:55 PM (GMT 0)
Bozo:

It sounds like, little by little, things are resolving.

I suspect your very intense workouts have caused some issues. I know it can cause bleeding and maybe that can also result in infection.

Just a thought: I know they sell test strips in stores and I think you can get quite a large batch via Amazon. Maybe get some and do your own tests (I think it would show blood and protein). You can kind of monitor yourself, especially in relation to exercise.

Mel
Posted 4/22/2016 7:40 PM (GMT 0)
Compiler…My main man…thank you for an excellent idea…I will definitely follow up on that. Wishing you and yours…well… you know…well… {tanks Jack H}
Jiminy Cricket where do my words come from… "Fools ask for reasons, wise men never try" Ezio Pinza …South Pacific circa 1940's

OK resting today…back at it tomorrow..decent south swell 4-5' faces light winds early morn for the dawn patrol…Beer and "Hateful Eight" tempted by the herb but quit... a couple of hi-octane icy-colds will be had

Toodles…Oodles of noodles...
Posted 4/29/2016 2:05 AM (GMT 0)
How's your numbers now, Bozo?
Posted 4/29/2016 5:04 AM (GMT 0)
Hi Jack… Infection gone… on the protienuria front Im waiting to take follow up blood work and another urinalysis without exercise on may 6.. She put me on 10 mg lisinopril…supposedly it helps with " leakage".. I know all she had to do was schedule the test and give me a 48 hour window,really only need 24 but for grins. Then we know.. but she thru the lysnoptill in so I wait. Funny thing is… she knows I take 50-100mg viagra daily for exercise{amino acids} and sex. I stopped the lysynopri...l it was causing me to get dizzy during some exercise and getting up quick would almost black me out . I guess she for got viagra lowers BP. I didn't just thought she knew and 10 mg… would do no harm I took it till dizzy started So I will pretend I took it…{ dizzy stopped}. rest for 48 hrs prior to test .. The leakage levels wil stabalise and she will smile… I like a woman's smile…so we will both be happy… Thanks for asking… We are usually on different pages... maybe even books ..but... we are reading… Regards... Bolo
Posted 5/5/2016 5:49 AM (GMT 0)
I don't know/understand much about this, Bozo, but won't the medication cover up whether the issue was exercise-induced or not? I guess you are out-smarting her by stopping the meds prior to your retest? Stop either the viagra or the lisinoprin. Do not operate heavy machinery.
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