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Posted 9/21/2009 3:33 PM (GMT 0)
I am recording it - but he is supposed to tell us what is good for constipation and diarrhea - maybe he will have some good ideas for us with UC.

ElaineNY

Posted 9/21/2009 10:28 PM (GMT 0)
What did he suggest? I missed it.
Posted 9/21/2009 10:56 PM (GMT 0)

Dr. Oz's new program is so good and full of information.  He talked today for one thing - about IBS.  He had a woman pick up a colon and showed her how the stool moves through and why the colon gets irritated.  Mostly he said it is due to not enough serotonin.  He suggested kimchi which is marinated cabbage or saurerkraut as the best foods.  BUT - his main suggestion was probiotics.  He demonstrated a probiotic that comes in a straw so you get it when you drink something - clever. (I believe developed for children)

ElaineNY

Posted 9/21/2009 11:00 PM (GMT 0)
Maybe we should flood him with requests to do a show on IBD! :) It seems that he's not afraid to talk about poop!
Posted 9/21/2009 11:01 PM (GMT 0)
Makes sense, kimchi and sauerkraut are both foods with live cultures. I've also had little probiotic shots that taste a little like orange sherbert.
Posted 9/21/2009 11:50 PM (GMT 0)
I'm thinking sauerkraut may not be the very best choice for IBDer, lol.
Posted 9/22/2009 12:08 AM (GMT 0)
Yes, Yakult or GoodBelly Probiotic drinks are excellent. Just one shot! ;-)
Posted 9/22/2009 12:09 AM (GMT 0)
That's why taking a good probiotic that has guaranteed intestinal release is so important....I don't really know how effective getting a probiotic that comes in a straw would really be since the real key is where it's timed released.

Like with any source of info, don't hang off every word, "The Doctor's" show isn't completely reliable either.


:)
Posted 9/22/2009 12:17 AM (GMT 0)

Sorry if I sounded so enthusiastic about Dr. Oz.  I have always loved him on Oprah and always felt he was "right on" in general.  Of course, we are all different.  He did not recommend any type of probiotic and never does endorse products - just in general recommends - I like that!

When I was first diagnosed a friend recommended Primal Defense Probiotic for me.  It was terrible.  So much gas and stomach upset - works great for some.  When I tried Aign is was perfect.  You never know until you try especially supplements.  Some are certainly a waste of money! (in my opinion).

ElaineNY

Posted 9/22/2009 12:50 AM (GMT 0)
Sauerkraut is fermented so it is naturally full of probiotics. I drink a lot of kombucha tea which is similar. You have to be careful of what you buy. The good kraut tends to be in the refridgerated section of the health food store.
Posted 9/22/2009 3:22 AM (GMT 0)
Kraut or kimchi for IBDers-- gads! Too much risk there from high acidity, strong spicing, & gas-inducing fiber. Is this the cardio-thoracic surgeon speaking? He should stick to his own field! / Old Hat (30 yrs with left-sided UC ... [etc.])
Posted 9/22/2009 9:51 AM (GMT 0)
I like Dr. Oz for making it okay to discuss poop..LOL. But, he is a little too New-Age for me. Sometimes his suggestions are so "out there".
Posted 9/22/2009 11:06 AM (GMT 0)
No, what Elaine said was that he suggested kraut for IBS'ers and if I am not mistaken, he was not talking about IBD'ers right Elaine?
Posted 9/22/2009 12:50 PM (GMT 0)
I've heard Dr. Roizen (Dr. Oz's partner is the YOU books and Realage.com) speak before.  He really likes to talk about poop, too.  He says "your poop should come out like Greg Louganis" (in case you don't remember, he was a diver for the US in quite a few Olympics).  He has this Powerpoint presentation where he shows the "poop" going through the colon.  Actually pretty graphic and also interesting.

Jen

Posted 9/22/2009 3:38 PM (GMT 0)
Yes, his presentation was strictly for IBS people!  We all know that sauerkraut would not work for most of us with UC - maybe those in remission however.  Dr. Oz is a Harvard graduate and extremely reveered Doctor.  His "new age" approach is what I like.  So many of my doctors have been way back in the old ages!!

You know when you get past say 60 so many doctors blame everything on your age and what you have done to your body over the years.  I hate that!

ElaineNY

Posted 9/22/2009 3:45 PM (GMT 0)
Jen O...it's amusing that Dr. Roizen says that poop should come out like 'Greg Louganis'. Unfortunately for people with UC, poop comes out like Greg Louganis after he hit his head on the diving board during the 1998 Olympics....wobbly and with blood all over the place.

I enjoy hearing what the 'New Age' doctors have to say. Especially as a lot of what they do say is not just New Age but has actually been practiced as traditional ways of healing for centuries.
Posted 9/22/2009 3:57 PM (GMT 0)
I have been taking probiotics since I was about 14 years old and long before I was dx with UC. Although I think they are beneficial for overall bacterial balance they are not a cure for IBS or UC. I was dx with UC at age 31 and continued with probiotics (don't think it helped much with UC/IBS) and still take them now that I have a jpouch. Actually, I have noticed more benefit from them post colon then with a colon.

Sue
Posted 9/22/2009 4:48 PM (GMT 0)
I don't think IBD'ers should necessarily avoid sauerkraut. The type you obtain may matter though, as notsosicklygirl mentions. The stuff normally sold on grocery store shelves is probably not a good idea. But sauerkraut with live cultures found in quality health food stores, or homemade, would probably be OK.

A number of recipes for making sauerkraut exist, usually with a different twist. Here is one that provides a little background info.
Posted 9/22/2009 4:55 PM (GMT 0)
I would say Dr. Oz may be revered by Oprah fans, Elaine. I can't help remembering some of the other people she's brought to prominence who aren't quite what she thinks they are. Dr. Phil being my prime example. There's a good reason he lost his license to practice as a psychologist.
Posted 9/22/2009 6:46 PM (GMT 0)

Well, Judith - we all have our opinions - isn't that great!  For your information, I don't like Oprah - just some of her guests including Dr. Oz over the years.

You know just for info - one reason I THINK I lost my gastro doctor and NP (who really do care about me) is because I talked too much about what I learned here and other places on the inernet.  They just did not understand I realize not everything works for everyone but at least we know we are not alone. 

I honestly believe - maybe because I am 69 - that some of the people on this forum are "crazy" NUTS for what they do and try - especially without telling a medical doctor.  But that is just me!  I have learned a lot here - bad and good.  When I mentioned something about the forum or internet my doctor just cringes and I was kindly told not to come here anymore for my information - then a month later I was referred to the specialist and cannot return to original doctor.  I will be looking for one closer I guess. 

So, when I talk about Dr. Oz - I take his info with a grain of salt as they say.  Today he talked about the plaque in our arteries from too much fat - I know I have that.  I am obese and he hit it right on the nose.  I will die early because of it unless I am willing to change.  So far I need knee replacement, short of breath, ache all over (from prednisone withdrawal) and have a corneal disease, high blood pressure and other minor things.  I get by with help of Xanax but I cannot deal with more than one thing at a time so here I am - hoping the specialist in Albany can help me some more but I know he is human and maybe I will just have to deal with this by myself as many here do! I did better for a whole year with Imodium and pepto bismal before diagnosis.

ElaineNY

Posted 9/22/2009 7:33 PM (GMT 0)
You sound like you're well-rid of your previous GI. That sucks he told you to stay away from the internet! Mine respects the fact that I've done a lot of reading and researching and knows that I most definitely don't believe everything I read on the 'net. Yours should have as well. Maybe he just assumed that since you're not young, you didn't understand that not everything on the 'net is true...you've more than proven that, I think!
Posted 9/22/2009 7:43 PM (GMT 0)

yes, fruitgirl - remember not all of us who are over 60 are senile or "stupid".  LOL  I have pure white hair and I use a cane because of my bad knees and probably looked at as "old" and frail.  Maybe my body is - but not my mind.

By the way, I tried to call my old gastro doctor/NP and was told that the NP (who was so nice and kind to me mostly) has left their office - hmmmmm?

ElaineNY

Posted 9/22/2009 7:56 PM (GMT 0)
It sounds like she got sick of it as well!
Posted 9/22/2009 8:45 PM (GMT 0)
Elaine, I wasn't suggesting no one should watch Dr. Oz. A lot of his information is good and presented in a very user-friendly way. I just thought "revered" was a little strong. He is respected, of course, but I don't know about "revered."
Posted 9/22/2009 8:55 PM (GMT 0)

judy - once again a matter of opinion - I think he is revered by many - dictionary says..

revere1worship, venerate, adore, idolize These verbs mean to regard with the deepest respect, deference, and esteem.

Of course I keep reminding my husband that doctors are humans too so not perfect.  He gets as frustrated with my doctors and UC as I do.  You know I just inherited quite a lot of money - but would rather have my Dad back and my health.  I know this money won't cure my UC.  Doctor told me Remicade was not for me because of my age and I am one of those who can afford it - wouldn't you know!

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