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Posted 4/5/2010 5:44 PM (GMT 0)
although I had posted about approaching remission I still get some cramping before I have my morning bm. I talked to a few non uc'ers and some say they get cramps before a bm as well. The cramp subsides right after the bm. It feels like a tightening in the lower ab..

Would you say this is a normal bm pain? or an ibs thing? OR UC related?

I dont typically have pain with my uc other than when Im flaring really bad..I feel it higher up on the left side and somtimes even nauteous..but this is not like that.

Posted 4/5/2010 5:49 PM (GMT 0)
Probably pre-UC, I would have just ignored cramps before a bm. But now, I totally understand the need to try to figure out how all these symptoms play a role. Still, if you have no other symptoms, hopefully it's just normal peristalsis cramping telling you "good morning! Get up now! :-)"

Congrats on 1-2 bms a day! Keep up whatever you're doing right!
Posted 4/5/2010 6:34 PM (GMT 0)
I think pain before a bm is normal as 'Gentle Now' says and as we have this condition we become a bit frantic as we don't know what is normal anymore.

I would say - don't worry, it will pass as it does after your morning bm and it is only temporary, so relax.

I have serious pain from my skintags after every bm which gets worse over the day so need painkillers constantly - hence surgery is necessary.

I always like to think things could be alot worse ;-)
Posted 4/5/2010 8:29 PM (GMT 0)
I have it sometimes.....and it would be more with a formed stool. I think your colon is being like a "brat"....still overreacting. With the probiotics and the fibre supplement, the sigmoid is probably having exercise like it's not before with loose stool.

If it doesn't hurt afterward....that's a good thing.

Oh, when you do have your bm....is it in a rush to come out and that's it....or does it seem to have a "process".....

When I have more gas.....I tend to have that discomfort.




quincy
Posted 4/6/2010 3:29 AM (GMT 0)
I'm in a real bad flare (10-15 BM/day). I have had so much intense pain with every BM that I can not even describe it. It comes and it goes, but it is for sure a complication you can get from UC. I'm going to ask my GI for stronger pain med tommorow. Just got out of the hospital Friday and don't wanna go back. The pain is really hard to deal with, though.
Posted 4/6/2010 8:05 AM (GMT 0)
OneLove..you should ask your doc for rectal meds as well (Salofalk if you're not in the US is a good start.


q
Posted 4/6/2010 1:21 PM (GMT 0)
Q- When I have the bm is varies, ie . did my enema last night..this morning woke at 7am..got up...had the urge and that crampy feeling- all that came out was a very thin ribbon like stool..those are the ones I just dont get? this ONLY happens with the eary morning bm and i cant figure out why..and its not every day..it picks and chooses when it wants to be thin or thick..
then i get to work i start eatting and i just know another one will come cause that piece of ribbon usually isnt the end of it for the day..and surely..another urge comes and i go a normal bm this time.

i am not sure what you mean by a "process" though.
Posted 4/6/2010 8:22 PM (GMT 0)
I guess I mean what's the norm. I had a thinner stool today and having the urge again. Of course, I ate lots of cadbury eggs (the small ones with candy coating). Not surprised...expected it.

I'm not worrying about the poos at this point. Been distressed about this cough, etc....but improving. My neck has been painful and I've cut my hair....short! takes a while to do it, so my stress is warranted..lol. I have an easy 2 weeks, happy my hair is done and I'm going to colour it.

This is all new to you, experiment, but don't get too hung up on some of the things, but do keep it all in perspective. Maybe with the vsl cut back, you might notice some changes....lots of beginnings happening for you.

quincy
Posted 4/7/2010 12:56 PM (GMT 0)
You are right..I just started to learn about how this whole UC thing works. .. Before it was "take salofalk" -OK,..then "take this prednisone"- OK..and then "then this humira"- OK..like a silly little girl..I thank God everyday I found this forum and I actually joined instead of just lurking and not posting like I usually do..
This morning once again..very very tiny ribbon stools. so strange.
Posted 4/7/2010 2:12 PM (GMT 0)
Krissy....I had 3 poos yesterday and waiting for my morning one. I'm always stressed in one way or another, but I"ll ask the doc today about that significance of poo shape, etc....

You've learned a lot....and you're an active participant in your care, especially coming from pred and Humira.


Oh, and your gazillion questions keep most of us thinking and researching to answer them for you..lol. I thank you for that!

q
Posted 4/7/2010 2:14 PM (GMT 0)
Q- you keep mentioning you are stressed and that your mind is tied to your arse..do you tihnk stress has that much of an affect on UC? like can it cause actual flares?
i know you dont think diet has much affect.
Posted 4/7/2010 2:21 PM (GMT 0)
I have IBS as well....so smaller bms can be part of it.

I don't react like having diarrhea, happy of that, however. I have a friend who is like that, and his wife only goes once every 4 days...OMG.

My stress is self-inflicted, timing and my sleep patterns, thought patterns and commitments. I'm not on a schedule and my husband works shifts. I must say I've always been like this....however.
Working on it.

REgarding my flaring......it's more deep emotional distress. Depends on all what's going on and how sick I've been with other stuff. This respiratory virus seems to hang on...can't stand the fuzzy tickly feeling.
I'm grateful to have the meds to keep areas of my body as calm as possible....yes, meds are my friend..lol.


quincy
Posted 4/7/2010 2:25 PM (GMT 0)
I often see your posts at odd times but thats ok..whatever works for you right..
How did you figure out you had ibs? I really want to talk to my doc about this. the fact that I get nervous and run to the toilet tells me something else is going on besides UC. Last year, here where I live a series of tornados hit land in Aug. Me and my husbo and 18 month old at the time were hanging out in the basement "just in case". I was very scared. More for my son than anything. I went to the bathroom 5 or 6 times in 10 minutes. At this time I Was on humira and was not really flaring..never as good as I am now but not really in abad flare, those bms came from PURE nerves. Scary thoughts, shakiness all that..
So I think I have something else going on and could be mixing with my UC.
Posted 4/7/2010 2:32 PM (GMT 0)
yes, odd times of posts. LOL....being a night owl doesn't help, and today I'm running on 4.5 hours. One client just called at 7 30 this morning...wth?? sheesh. I'm hyped getting up early, but only when I have an appointment...otherwise, I wouldn't care to get up.

Yo yo....

I'd be crapping regarding the tornadoes...wow....scary stuff! The weather for most people is a major stressor....the changes, unexpected stuff, etc.

I would agree you have other stuff going on as well.....the point of difference is the continuation/consistency (time)/increase...if it continues and gets worse, it's probably a flare coming on. Or, if something is happening that will be extremely stressful, I'd start the enemas nightly anyway.

I've learned I'm a med lifer...no problemo compared to the alternatives of pred/immunosuppressants and biologics...don't really want to go there since I"m doing fine at this point.

q
Posted 4/7/2010 2:51 PM (GMT 0)
So you DO think that stress causes flares?
Posted 4/8/2010 8:07 AM (GMT 0)
Causes?.....triggers I guess, especially if one's body is reactive and still has inflammation that's not being treated, be it every so little possible.

There's type of distress that the mind/body endures while going through, maybe because of the high adrenaline or cortisole releases. But, it will seem that after one has been through a tough stint, the flare is more noticably present.

Again, depending on symptoms that one recognises and doesn't.

I don't think it's as black and white, but I will say that extreme distress for me will triger my gut to react...either by putting it in higher gear, lower gear because of rectal stress (constricting) or while being on maintenance dosage, it just has time to allow an inflammation response.

clear as mud, right?

q
Posted 4/8/2010 12:38 PM (GMT 0)
yup, clear as muddy water
i know stress or fear cause certain "reactions" for me. Still trying to figure out if thats IBD or IBS related. I have an appt with a great GI next week for a second opinion. I am hoping he can shed some light.
Posted 4/8/2010 2:58 PM (GMT 0)
Make your list of questions NOW!! by then it should be pages...lol.

q
Posted 4/9/2010 6:39 PM (GMT 0)
I actually just think it might be a waste of time since i am doing much better now..he might just say ok so you are going 1-2 times a day no blood or uregncy..what can i do for you?
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