raw milk

raw as in fresh from the cow at the dairy farm?!

I drank it at the farm next door when i was a kid. Milk is heated to about 160 degrees for a very short time to pasteurize it. Homogenization is simply running milk through a fine screen. I drank milk in France and I definitely think it was just like our milk. I do think they use raw milk for some fancy cheese. From what I know about food safety in this country, I am kind of afraid to drink pasteurized milk...no way would I drink raw milk from most of diary farms in this part of the country. Said fact is diary cows are breed to produce an unhealthy(for them) amount of milk and need to be constantly treated for infections of the udder and teets. They can't even nurse a calf because the udder is unnaturally huge to produce more milk. They probably don't have any living let alone healthy bacteria in their bodies(not really)

Milk can carry tons of pathogens that infect humans and a new concern is that some of them are resistant to pasteurization.

I didn't realize there was a raw milk debate. I will have to read up on it. It sounds like a bad idea.

I did check into culturing mutaflor(or other e-coli). It is done by selecting cells under a microscope from a culture started on a agar plate then grown in Trypticase soy broth under highly sterilized conditions. It might grow in milk but no way they would use unsterilized milk. I tried growing mutaflor at home, came to my senses and threw it out. LOL

In all honesty if you are used to store milk, raw milk doesn't taste good especially if they are golden guernseys. Our neighbor had these and they have over 5% milk fat, lost of beta carotene and it has a yellow color because of it. We used to give a glass to city kids and watch them puke. LOL

Raw milk is risky.

Sue

Sally Fallon member of the Weston A. Price Foundation and author of Nourishing Traditions makes a very good case for raw milk. But it is a moot point because it is illegal in most places including my state.

If you are going to drink milk it may be a good idea to get organic milk if you can afford it. Otherwise it may be from cows fed BGH, Bovine Growth Hormone, another one of Monsanto's better food thru chemistry ideas.

If you cannot find organic cheese then look for cheese produced in Europe. BGH is banned in Europe and for good reason.

yeah, it's illegal to sell raw milk in New York. You can get around it by buying a share in a cow at a farm and getting the milk.

First, that "pus" thing, is the grossest thing I've ever heard! I will never touch non-organic dairy again!

I have always been a big dairy lover since I was a kid, but had to give it up a year and a half ago because it was clearly causing me huge bloating and gas and was probably also causing flaring of the UC.

A week ago, I was told about Jini Thompson's website on the Fecal Transplant forum and after reading a great deal about Raw Milk, I decided to try it.

Raw Milk is legal in my state for "pet consumption". But in my area, there are clean, organic farms, with grass fed cows using sterile equipment, flash cooling the milk to 34 degrees as soon as it comes out of the cow, and they offer tours of the farm.

I started drinking the raw milk 4 days ago and I've seen a great improvement in my symptoms! Now, I've worked hard for the last 6 month and I have gone from tons of meds (prednisone, asacol, flagyl, cipro, lomotil) with 20+ bm's daily, bleeding and horrible cramping... to no meds, no bleeding, and semi-solid to liquid bm's 1 to 5 times a day. But i want to be completely well.

I recently tried fecal transplants. This helped some in that my stools became more solid and less frequent, but I had terrible gas and bloating. It was probably a missmatch with my donor, but you can't just ask anyone to do this. You have to be close, and they have to be healthy.

So, I tried the raw milk, and I feel great! The gas a bloating are gone. I'm down to 1 or 2 mostly solid bm's in the morning. However, I'm producing more mucus, and I'm having one or two small bm's of mucus in the evening, or maybe one at night. It's wonderful to have the work day free from the need to find a bathroom. I'm going to keep doing the raw milk. I may go to a raw milk fast where I eat nothing but raw milk. Here's a link for finding raw milk providers in your area:

http://www.realmilk.com/where1.html#ga

If it lands you on Georgia, just scroll up to find the all the states at the top of the page.

I also take Jarodophillous and a high quality multivitamin.

Cheers Everyone!

I would love to try raw milk.  I know there are at least 2 dairies in my area that provide it legally as animal feed (I'm sure they have some sort of disclaimer that says it's not for human consumption, but I know about 10 people who buy it for human consumption and none of them has ever had a problem).  The thing I can't get over is how expensive it is.  I think a gallon of organic milk costs between $5 and $6.  I asked one of my raw-milk-consuing-friends several months ago how much she spends for a gallon and it's something like $15.  Gads.  This disease is very expensive to figure out.

 

I found this article about the raw milk debate interesting.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2010-04-15-rawmilk15_ST_N.htm

I started on Raw Milk last Friday and I'm doing great. I'm having 1 BM of solid stools in the morning, and maybe two little BMs during the day. I feel very "normal". I feel good! No gas, no bloating, no mucus, no cramping, no urgancy!!! Today, I started eating only Raw Milk and cheese made from raw milk. I still feel great!

I went on a tour of my provider farm. They were clean, and impressive.

Yes, the stuff is expensive ($7 for a gal. of milk, $8 for a block of cheese), but it's way cheeper than medications and doctor visits!!!

I got my fingers crossed. This is the cure!

Cheers!

Glad it's working for you. Keep us updated.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2003/08/27/crohns-disease.aspx

My father-in-law, a nurse who is very well educated and natural health, suggested that I go on a diet of two weeks nothing but raw milk. He was naming all of the health benefits. One of them being probiotic. I'm wondering if anyone has tried this and seeing positive results

nothing wrong with raw milk in general, with a few caveats > know where it comes from and how the animals are being treated - can you visit the home of the cows/goats ?

i have been drinking raw goat milk almost everyday for the last 3 or so years - no issues whatsoever -

but the 2 week raw milk only thing ???? nope, not sure I'd try that one -

add the raw milk to your regular diet and see how you do -

good luck !