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Posted 9/18/2011 1:25 PM (GMT 0)
hello, i am new. i have been having alot of problems with weightloss 23 pounds in 1 and half months, some contispation and alternating diarrhea, mouth sores, anal fissure, stomach rumbling and my biggest problem is the anal pain which i have every day. i have been to the colon and rectal docs but they think it is hemmorhids, but my anal problems continue to bother me every day. i am having a colonscopy and small bowell follow thru in the next few weeks that the gastro ordered. i just feel like there is something wrong with me due to the extreme weight loss and anal problems.  thanks for listening to me
Posted 9/18/2011 2:45 PM (GMT 0)
Hey Jenny, Welcome to Healing Well.

It does sound like sypmtoms of Crohn's or UC but there is no way to know until you get the results of the colonoscopy. Try to stay calm, hopefully it is something else that can be cured with antibiotics but if it is Crohn's, there are a lot of treatments available so try not to worry too much right now. I can't imagine hemmorhoids causing all of things you describe but it could be due to a bug, have you had your stool tested? Do you ever see blood in your stool? Blood is very commonly seen with UC, not always with Crohn's. There is a Crohn's forum here on HW too.

Please let us know if you have any questions about the colonoscopy/prep & what you find out next week.
Posted 9/18/2011 3:00 PM (GMT 0)
I don't think people lose 23 lbs from hemorrhoids...
Posted 9/18/2011 3:11 PM (GMT 0)
i have not had any stool testing done. there were a few times that i thought i saw blood in my stool it was dark in color almost black and i was very constipated at that time. i dont take iron supplements and i didnt have anything to eat that would have turned my stool that color. i am prepping for the colonscopy tomm, the colonscopy is tuesday. i am really worried about what is gonna be found, but i just cant stand the anal problems i am having any more. i agree 23 pounds is not from hemmroids.
Posted 9/18/2011 4:49 PM (GMT 0)
The dark stool is characteristic of bleeding from the upper digestive tract/small intestine which leads me to believe you have Chrons. Hoepfully, you won't have UC or Chrons though :).
Posted 9/18/2011 6:09 PM (GMT 0)
Sounds more like Crohn's. I hope you find the answers you are looking for
Posted 9/18/2011 6:21 PM (GMT 0)
i thought maybe it sounded like uc more because i have been looking at posts on here and i see that alot of people have rectum problems that sound like i am having. on the crohns site not as many people have problems with rectum. i am just plain worried, this has been going on for along time and the problems keep going with my butt. i just wish the anal colon surgeons would have put me on some kind of rectal medication for inside, but all they did was tell me i had a fissure that has healed and had hemmorids. i also have a external skin tag. thanks for all the help..
Posted 9/18/2011 6:46 PM (GMT 0)
The rectum is just inside the anus (anus of course being the outside) with CD it can affect any part of the GI tract from mouth to anus, with UC it's limited to the colon/rectum with no anal involvement (although UCers can get fissures which is usally caused by lotd of D and wiping) and anyone can get hemmies regardless if they have IBD or not.

Perianal crohn's skin tags are related to CD only and not UC ever (I speak from my own personal experiance) my disease basically started with my perianal crohn's skin tags BEFORE it affected me internally which is quite rare. My perianal skin tags were misDX as hemmies and I had them banded which has kept them in a constant flare for my 20 yrs now of having CD.

Go with your gut instinct (maybe get some other Doc opinions) I wish I hadn't ignored my gut feelings when I was told I simply had hemmies cuz I felt it was something else and I was right but it didn't do me too good in the end.


Good luck!
Posted 9/18/2011 7:41 PM (GMT 0)
The anus is in the outside and about an inch or slightly more internally before it becomes the rectum.

Some UCers have anal issues, but not with UC specifically. CDers, such as pb4 have perianal, rectal and colon involvement which is part of that type of CD. I have a friend with fistulising CD, so primarily perianal involvement with a patch in the colon.

I don't think you should try to diagnose yourself, but you should make sure you have the pertinent testing to get a diagnosis. A colonoscopy is the first tool, with biopsies if you have inflammation. Stool testing should also be part of the process to rule out any invaders. Blood testing should be done to check out inflammation, markers, blood levels, etc.

Yes, diarrhea wouldn't be caused by hemmies as pointed out.  Simple diagnosis as such is an insult by doctors.  I had that thrown at me before I saw the GI...it was a relief to finally know what was going on.

You do need to get on medications if you have hemmies or fissures to help heal those. Push for it after your scope, or ask the doc for a prescription for the nurse to give you after the scope if you're "out of it".

External tags can be a result of a fissure. I have one, and I don't have CD.

Is a GI doing the scope or the anorectal surgeon?

What prep are you using tomorrow?
Hang tough...it's really stressful until a diagnosis...I truly hope you don't have either and that simple persistent treatment will be all you need.

Welcome to the forum! Keep us posted for sure.
q

Posted 9/18/2011 10:10 PM (GMT 0)
the prep i am using is gavilyte-n plus 4 ducloax tablets.  my gastro is doing the colonscopy.  i am also having a small bowell follow up the following week. i have had some blood work done but when the secretary called me to make a appt for the colonscopy and small bowell follow she didnt tell me the results of blood work.  i havent had good luck with the colon rectal doctors, they put me on medicine for fissure( Nitro) and told me fissure is healed.  they have put me on analpram for hemm also, but it does not help me with the anal pain i am having.  when i look at myself it looks like skin tag and inside of anus is inflammed.  today i am having problems with my intestines rumbling very loudy.  hope to get answers soon..
Posted 9/18/2011 10:47 PM (GMT 0)
at least it's soon! Ask the secretary to print you the results of the blood tests...unless the doc will be discussing the results of all your tests at one time.

THEN, ask for copies for all the tests, including the c-scope and smft.

q
Posted 9/19/2011 3:44 PM (GMT 0)
today is my colonscopy prep day. i am just worried about being able to drink this without actually vomiting. my stomach hurts at the thought of drinking this. i know that it will be worth it in the end to find out what is going on with me. i am going to ask the nurse for some rectal meds also after the procedure and i hope they dont put me on hemm creme, it doesnt help me at all.. any tips for drinking the mixture today? thanks
Posted 9/20/2011 2:37 AM (GMT 0)
I never found a good way to drink the prep. Miserable stuff especially if you have already been ill for while. I sat on the toilet, drank, vomited and prayed. I remember telling God that I wasn't being stubborn, but if all that stuff was required to get in me, He was going to have to help me find a way to do it! In the end, I did not drink it all, but the colonoscopy went well anyway.
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