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Posted 1/30/2012 7:34 PM (GMT 0)
I have purchased all of these but have no clue how to take them...morning night both? can i take any of these together? how to prepare..water...almond milk...shake?
all are powders except for the probiotics.

The probiotics i take are from costco and take 3 a day. Is this a good brand my GI told me to purchase it from here?

Thanks for your help
Posted 1/30/2012 8:09 PM (GMT 0)
The probiotics i take are from costco and take 3 a day. Is this a good brand my GI told me to purchase it from here?

You'll have to report what the probiotics say are the ingredients, in other words what are the names of the bacteria and in what quantity (usually in millions). I have read a report from some consumer watchdog that tested various probiotics and found that even though the bottle said X million of bacteria there was less than that.

The more millions/billions per capsule the better for you. Many people aren't getting the full benefit because they aren't taking enough, which is generally not just one or two pills a day as it says on the label. That would be the dose for healthy people not UC'ers.

Also important is that you need to see if a particular probiotic agrees with your gut, they aren't all the same. I tried a couple different ones before settling on one.
Posted 1/30/2012 8:50 PM (GMT 0)
Search (box under Join HealingWell tab upper right of screen) for posts by InSoFla.
The posts will contain a lot of info regarding about these supplements.

I copied this from one post:
InSoFla Diet
early AM: protein shake (with almond milk,whey protein, maca powder, l-glutamine powder, chia seeds, liquid minerals, liquid vitamins, l-arginine ethyl esther powder). It goes down so smoothly and I love the taste of it (chocolate).
mid AM: protein shake (almond milk, whey protein, chia seeds)

Through the posts you can find a lot of info and lists of websites containing info about natural remedies.
One website mentioned is healulcerativecolitis.com

I'm currently mixing slippery elm bark in a little warm water with my probiotics (Benebiotics and Jarrow S. Boulardii) with some honey and drinking it after dinner to coat my digestive tract. Have noticed less inflammation.
Posted 1/30/2012 8:53 PM (GMT 0)
http://cureforulcerativecolitis.com/step-2-slippery-elm-bark-powder

Sorry got website (above) wrong
Check out this one........................:-)
Posted 1/31/2012 6:46 PM (GMT 0)
Imagardener2,

The probiotics are called HealthBalance
they contain

Lactobacillus casei 1.5 billion
Lactobacillus rhamnosus 1.25 billion
Lactobacillus acidophilus 0.75 billion
Bifidobacterium longum 0.75 billion
Bifidobacterium breve 0.75 billion


ItsAlwaysSomething,
How does that mixture of water, slippery elm and honey taste?
Posted 1/31/2012 7:15 PM (GMT 0)
I tried l-glutamine a few times mixed in chocolate soy milk and thought it tasted good.
Posted 1/31/2012 11:41 PM (GMT 0)
UC-V
The slippery elm cocktail doesn't taste as bad as you might think. The honey makes it palatable.
If there's some "residue" left on the sides of the cup after I drink most of the mix, I pour in a little cranberry juice and swish it around to finish it off.

I'm noticing the good results so it's tasting better and better. :-)
Posted 2/1/2012 1:24 AM (GMT 0)
ItsAlwaysSomething,

So good to hear that the slippery elm powder + VSL cocktail is working for you! :-)

Posted 2/1/2012 1:30 AM (GMT 0)
UC-V,

IMO, by all means try the probiotics you've purchased and see how you do on them, however I don't think they contain enough active cultures. VSL #3 contains 8 different strains of probiotics and number at 450 billion active cultures, and was especially made for UC. You may want to consider trying that after the current Costco probiotics.

L-Glutamine powder is great for 2 things:

1) Diarrhea, take 1 teaspoon in a little water on an empty stomach, several times a day.

2) Long term colonic repair: 1 scoop ( approx. 5 grams) added to protein shake - made with almond milk. I would suggest you try dairy, wheat, gluten free too.

Slippery elm powder is great for coating the whole alimentary canal.

Mix 1 teaspoon in 1-2 oz. of water (room temp and filtered), then you can add your probiotics to it, and some honey if you like. Drink this "cocktail" 3 x per day, after meals.

Hope this helps.


 

Posted 2/1/2012 1:44 AM (GMT 0)
UC-V

In my mind the more live bacteria in probiotics taken the better.

Just as a comparison here is what VSL#3 contains in one packet (not a pill):

"Each dose contains 450 billion live lactic acid bacteria per packet in defined ratios of lyophilized Bifidobacterium breve, Bifidobacterium longum, Bifidobacterium infantis, Lactobacillus acidophilus, Lactobacillus plantarum, Lactobacillus paracasei, Lactobacillus bulgaricus, Streptococcus thermophilus."

They don't break down how much of each because I imagine it's a proprietary blend and secret. The 450 billion is important.

VSL#3DS (DS stands for Double Strength) has 900 billion bacteria and that is the strength that has tests showing 77% of UC people had positive response to it. I think the study had people taking (4) double strength doses per day if I remember correctly. Huge amount of bacteria.

People in this forum take many different probiotics and are happy with them. I just want to suggest that taking one or two pills a day may not be making much difference in restoring gut flora but who knows.

I take 1 VSL per day and only double up when things are going downhill.

You'll need to try yours out and see if there is improvement. You might need to increase your dose. And compare probiotics in price by how many billions of live bacteria per $ spent.

Good luck with it. It's worth finding out if it helps.
Posted 2/1/2012 10:21 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you all!
Posted 2/7/2012 9:20 PM (GMT 0)
Okay so the slippery elm bark powder doesnt taste that bad especially with honey

Ive been taking it once at night before bed and feel it has helped

it was suggested to take it three times....

I have learned that you shouldnt take any meds 2 hours before or after?

i wanted to start adding the l-glutamine which should be taken on an empty stomach at first if d present but can be mixed in shakes?

how should i take this.....if i only take the l-glutamine in the morning(once a day) should i drink that first then the slippery elm bark....and if so how long after?

also if you shouldnt take meds within two hours before or after taking slippery elm bark how is my food and its nutrients from food still ok to be absorbed?

sorry for all the questions thanks for all the help
glad this place exists!

V
Posted 2/8/2012 12:42 AM (GMT 0)
UC-V,

Glad the slippery elm powder is helping you.

i wanted to start adding the l-glutamine which should be taken on an empty stomach at first if d present but can be mixed in shakes?

If you have D, have it on an empty stomach. Additionally, you can mix 1-2 scoops into your protein shakes (whether you have D or not) to promote colonic healing/repair.

how should i take this.....if i only take the l-glutamine in the morning(once a day) should i drink that first then the slippery elm bark....and if so how long after?

also if you shouldnt take meds within two hours before or after taking slippery elm bark how is my food and its nutrients from food still ok to be absorbed?

Okay so if you have D, and need to take the L-Glutamine in the morning, wait 30-45 minutes and then take your slippery elm powder mixture. Make sure you time your meds out of the range of the 2 hour window.

Hope this helps.


 

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