Anabolic Steroids

Why would you be using them in the first place?

q

I'm an amateur bodybuilder, stayed natural but always been interested in the anabolic route. I know it could bring my bodies balance into different levels.

In regards to the test levels thanks I will look into it, I actually stopped smoking around 3 months ago, ended up having a flare as a result of it.

Thanks

Rage

Why do you want to destroy your body more than as it is( im assuming as you are in a colitis forum)? It will only cause you more problems in the long run and you will lose your mass if you dont take it anymore. Besides, prednisolone is a catabolic steroid, meaning it does the exact opposite of anabolic steroids.

I know anobolic steroids have a social stigma about them but they are genrally less harmful than pred. I'm seeing my doc on thurs and will discuss with him, I'm sure he will love that :)

Haha I know he won't I just want to hear his honest views on them.

quincy said...
The only way you'll get them is illegally...so that makes it a bit of a no-no discussion on this board.

q

Completely false. Women get estrogen prescribed to them, men can do the same and get testosterone prescribed not for menopause but for andropause.

Having low testosterone is unhealthy.

Here is a book from Harvard Medical School on the topic.

www.amazon.com/Testosterone-Life-Recharge-Vitality-Overall/dp/0071494804

I have been prescribed HGH which was really expensive and regrew cartilage on the facet joints in my neck very quickly. I was told I had 'degeneration' and asked for HGH but the bone doctor said no.

Your general practitioner or your GI doc will not prescribe bio-identical hormone replacements. But it is completely legitimate you just have to go to doctors who specialize in hormones and you have to take tests to show you are low.

My GP showed I had 600 Free-T and said that was not my problem and left it at that. Who knows he might have referred me to someone if it had been low. Generally that's just not their bag and you want someone more knowledgeable managing your replacement therapy anyway.

Post Edited (aguywithuc) : 7/10/2012 4:26:03 PM (GMT-6)

Andrev said...
I guess he doesnt have problems with his testosterone levels, only need it for bodybuilding. But to answer the OPs question, i think it actually could help a bit with Uc, as it has a general repairing, building effect so it might help in the colon too. Though it would cause an imbalance in the hormone system so dont know about that.

You have to read between the lines here ok ? Its sort of an IQ test. Of course I was sure the day of my Human Growth Hormone ( HGH ) test that it would be near zero. I was able to regenerate my 'degenerated' facet joints cartilage with the legitimate prescription of HGH. My neck has been like new ever since. No more high velocity manipulation from chiropractors that's for sure.

If he wants 'extra' testosterone levels, or even nandrolone along with testosterone then he has to either display poor levels the day of the test or buy it on the street at a huge discount and huge risk. That sounds pretty unsafe to me.

If someone is taking oral steroids they will damage their liver, if they cannot man up and do intra-muscular injections with a 1.5 inch needle they can try the Canadian method of sub-q injections with baby insulin needles. Pills are for fools. Proper use of androgens makes your johnson larger not smaller. If the testes shrink or you get *any* acne then you are totally clueless and did not do proper research and have no business using any gear. Hormones are not tinker toys.

The primary OP inquiry in regards to the effect on UC is that testosterone is shown to reduce immune response. Sounds like a positive. But if one is not up to doing the research and self education they are better off steering clear of it entirely because things can go terribly wrong. Start with William Llewellyn's comprehensive book.

If you fix your thyroid, you can expect your immune system to function better.
If you fix your hormones, you can expect your immune system to function better.
If you fix your adrenals, you can expect your immune system to function better.

Ultimately you seek safe hormonal *balance*.

Testosterone effects on the immune system

beheco.oxfordjournals.org/content/6/4/397.short

The immunocompetence hypothesis predicts that testosterone (T) enhances the expression of male secondary sexual characters while exerting a suppressive effect on the immune system thereby exposing hosts to higher intensities of parasite infestations.

Testosterone Helps Protect Healthy Arteries in Men

williamllewellyn.com/?p=393

In this study, higher bioavailable testosterone was associated with less calcium deposited within the arteries, and thus a lower risk of developing atherosclerosis.

Testosterone Treatment Cuts Mortality Rate in Half

williamllewellyn.com/?p=383

There is an abundance of studies in the medical literature associating low testosterone levels with negative health outcomes such as cardiovascular disease, metabolic syndrome, diabetes and increased mortality. We also find no shortage of papers linking testosterone replacement therapy with improvements in related short-term health markers such as blood lipids, adiposity, insulin and blood sugar levels. However, there are as of yet a limited number of long-term large-population-based studies examining the overall changes in mortality rates when men are given hormone replacement therapy. A new paper in the Journal or Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism expands our knowledge in this needed area of study.

Post Edited (aguywithuc) : 7/10/2012 10:05:01 PM (GMT-6)

Rage Animal said...
Thanks aguywithuc, I've heard in the states that give out HGH pretty easily. I'm seeing my doc tomorrow so will let you all know what they say. The only thing that worries me about it is the imbalance in the body that seems to be what upsets the uc.
In regards the oral form A deffo no no.

Cheers guys!

When I was done with the HGH they told me to give T a whirl, claiming they had another patient with UC and that it helped him. So I did and it never bothered my UC in fact it did seem to help. Felt healthy felt strong no complaints. None whatsoever.

For a stubborn flare up I take pysllium seed powder and press it into large blank capsules, I consume 4 of them and also take Librax while sticking to salmon and steak. Shuts it down within 48 hours.

When I was done with the HGH they told me to give T a whirl, claiming they had another patient with UC and that it helped him. So I did and it never bothered my UC in fact it did seem to help. Felt healthy felt strong no complaints. None whatsoever.

For a stubborn flare up I take pysllium seed powder and press it into large blank capsules, I consume 4 of them and also take Librax while sticking to salmon and steak. Shuts it down within 48 hours.

That sounds interesting will google that powder and look into it. I don't actually want HGH but just find it interesting learning about all these different ways of trying to overcome this pesky disease.

Will update tomorrow!

Have you experienced any side effects of hgh? What kind of doctor prescribed it to you? My endocrinologist refused to give me despite the fact that i have low gh levels and full blown osteoporosis(though IGF-1 level is ok).

By the way mate, I bought some psyllium husks yesterday, will give it a blast for a while!

BabeintheWoods said...

aguywithuc said...
I was able to regenerate my 'degenerated' facet joints cartilage with the legitimate prescription of HGH. My neck has been like new ever since.

I did not know that human growth hormone can regenerate cartilage.

Competing bodybuilder told me he got some from his doctor for a bad joint. From what I read it generally increases healing everywhere. It is known to result in temporary saturation of the joints which is why temporary carpal tunnel is a risk. Perhaps the additional fluid in there helped get nutrients etc where it was needed. I just know that chiropractors could not help my neck, I was seeing 2 different ones. I could not play catch with my daughter, I knew where every bump on the road to work was and it was painful in the neck. MRI said degeneration C2,C3,C5 something like that. Bone doctor said it was just aging and my neck was ahead of my body. HGH is anti-aging so I got some and it was amazing. At other times I have taken it when there was nothing in particular that needed healing and I felt it was not good use of my money. My L-5 is broken from high school football but nothing will fix that it shifted 25% over the bones below, its there and unless I get surgery to fuse it nothing will change. It is stable but I will be requesting and x-ray next week to ensure it has not gotten worse. That is not a cartilidge problem that is a structural failure in the bones and the body adjusted to the new positions. Surgery is the only option so for now I do not take pain meds and I do core stability exercises, stand on left foot, press dumbell with opposite hand - total recruitment of core. Same thing for one arm rows. Not the kind of lifting that will make my huge so I stop doing it as soon as I restore the core stability. I do a distorted yoga stretch when its really painful and that works real well.