Increased serum levels of L-arginine in ulcerative colitis and correlation with disease severity.

Mike, it is a known that arginine is not recommended for those with all Herpes type virus'. It actually is one of the main reasons why the virus gets awakened is too much arganine in the cell store. I think maybe there is something to this because all I been reading on EBV correlates it to a herpes type of virus which then would assume that if you did have EBV you would not want to take in more arginine than lysine. I myself have been taking 250mg of l-lysine daily for a month or so now. I also watch for foods high or even low in arginine to keep my levels low with the exception for spinach. Maybe this has something also to do with my progress. I do also know just as a side note that spinach has arginine but also has lysine and is higher in lysine so there is a balanbce but as compared to lets say chocolate or peanuts you cant compare as they are very high in arginine.

Perhaps alot of us have a virus and infact have EBV which would explain why you get worste when taking more arginine. Also from what I have read if you croud out the arginine in the cell store with Lysine you essentially keep the virus in a dormant state. Could it be that the herpes form of EBV causing lesions in our guts similiar of the typical oral herpes virus since EBV is also a herpes type of virus? I may up my dose of l-lysine to 500mg a day.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11816543

http://jcm.asm.org/content/47/5/1588.full

Steve

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Chocolate is not high on arginine. If you look at the nutritional value of chocolate . Arginine is only slightly higher than lysine. It's the balance of the 2 that matters. I have been following the scd diet for 1.5 year. I have gotten 4 cold sores during this time, before that,I think I have only had 3-4 my whole life ,I am almost forty. What I have read is all those nuts and baking with nuts may be the reason I have been getting them all of a sudden.

well,there would go my theory why I keep getting coldsores all of a sudden. All nuts are extremely high in arginine,I have been avoiding them for a month now. But if the arginine ,lysine is wrong whats the point.

Thank you old Mike!

L-Arginine makes me explode and its a main ingredient in every pre-workout drink.

Arginine-Ethyl-Ester does not cause any reaction other than to dilate my arteries and give me a better pump with lifting.

If I suspect some hypertension I take it immediately and everything relaxes.

Before I began taking it I did the research and found the information contradictory.

zdenka said...
No its not twiggs,look up nutrition value of it,and the amino acids. I read that as well on live strong . 1 cup of cocoa has 882 mg or arginine ,1 cup of almonds has of 4500mg of arginine,I wouldn't consider that too high

Click to expand the Amino Acids

nutritiondata.self.com/facts/sweets/10638/2

Click "More Details on "Protein & Amino Acids"

zdenka thanks I stand corrected. As compared to nuts yes it is relatively low. I avoid nuts and seeds and chocolate as a whole..aguywithuc pointed out on nutrition data which shows there is none in chocolate which think that is strange. I guess I will just go with the fact that it is low in arginine..Otherwise I dont know why Livestrong would claim it to be high. Goes to show you that you have to fact check most everything these days.

I try to keep the balance of Lysine and arginine with the leaning to the lysine side. Similiar to how you want to balance your acidic / ph levels on the alkaline side. I try to make my lysine ratio higher then my arginine.

Steve

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