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Posted 7/30/2013 4:42 PM (GMT 0)
Hi guys,

I just wanted to get some general opinions on NRT testing. I guess a brief rundown of what's been going on would be helpful? I started transdermal LDN about two months ago, and had been doing very well. I follow the SCD (nothing beyond Phase 3) very strictly - and have even eliminated all nuts, seeds and cheese from that. The only dairy I consume is homemade raw milk kefir, which I have taken for several years without issue. I was doing very well, when out of the blue - WHAM! Killer, bloody flare.

I'm working with two doctors - my traditional, western-philosophy GI and a more naturopathic D.O. (who prescribed the LDN for me). Neither one of them had anything of value to offer for this flare. The western GI offered me Uceris, prednisone or to go back on Remicade, the D.O. told me to scale back to Phase 1 of the SCD (which I did, after redoing 2 days of the Intro diet). It's been two weeks with absolutely no improvement whatsoever. I'm not expecting remission in 2 weeks, but a modicum of improvement would be encouraging.

Yesterday, I decided to visit a naturopath, thinking I might as well exhaust every possible avenue to get better. He did something called NRT (nutritional response testing) where I hold various things in my hand and he observes changes in my muscle tone and heart rate. I kept thinking, "This is so hokey. I am totally wasting our family's money on this." EXCEPT - that at the end of the test, he was able to identify two unique things I'm sensitive to that 1) aren't common, and 2) I had not told him I had sensitivities to. (Food coloring, natural flavoring - It took me years to isolate these things as being problematic for me).

I would ordinarily just write this type of testing off, but the fact that he identified these things makes me wonder if this might be a legitimate form of testing? He said he almost never has someone test positive as being sensitive to food coloring.

In any case, I'd love to hear from some fellow UC'ers who have experience with NRT. Did you find it to be accurate and helpful?

Thank you for reading this! :)
Posted 7/30/2013 4:51 PM (GMT 0)
"where I hold various things in my hand and he observes changes in my muscle tone and heart rate. I kept thinking, "This is so hokey. I am totally wasting our family's money on this." EXCEPT - that at the end of the test, he was able to identify two unique things I'm sensitive to that 1) aren't common, and 2) I had not told him I had sensitivities to. (Food coloring, natural flavoring - It took me years to isolate these things as being problematic for me).

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Maaan, I had similar tests done at naturos... I find it soooo bullshaaat, it's crazy. The one I had was telling me to hold this or that in my hand and she would push my arm and if my arm would go down then I'm sensitive to that or maybe it was the way around.

Maaaaaan, and stuff like this cost money. ****ing bullsh*.

You hold the stuff now, you'll see I'll make your arms go down also. *roll eyes*. One time, she was straining to get my arm down cause I was resisting like a motherf....rofl.
Posted 7/30/2013 4:55 PM (GMT 0)
It gets so frustrating trying to decide what to believe, doesn't it??? I've had soooooooo many hospital and lab tests done through MDs, but they can't figure out how to help me. I guess I was truly hoping there might be someone out there who could help me figure this out.

I appreciate your response. Thank you!
Posted 7/30/2013 5:06 PM (GMT 0)
I agree that most of this stuff is just plain bull, and "thanks for the check, I've also got some supplements you can buy". You have to remember that these people didn't get where they are by being unconvincing. Having said that I find it fascinating that with many drug trials for UC the placebo effect seems to have a fairly high percentage (usually anywhere between 10%-20%). I find that truly amazing and may be behind some of the successes of these quacks. If you believe in a treatment strongly enough then there is that placebo effect percentage of people that will respond to the quackery, thinking that that indeed is what was responsible for their improvement or remission.
Posted 7/30/2013 5:07 PM (GMT 0)
Very interesting!
Posted 7/30/2013 8:22 PM (GMT 0)
I've had nrt...muscle testing done by a friend who did it, and have done it at home just for interest sake. Everything I have at home and eat seems fine...lol.

I can't remember what wasn't good, however.....but it was with general stuff.

In school...waaaaaaaaaay back in 1965, we did tests like that with lights turned on/off, glasses on/off, jewellery on/off...but no testing.

It's cool, but I don't know what it directly can signify. I do know that I don't feel good after I eat some foods...booze especially, even a sip. I'll have to try that one day and see if there's a difference.

I wouldn't put complete stock in the results and make it the commandments, however.....and fear straying from it. There can also be psychological implications/controls in that process as well.

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