Have you guys heard of Carrageenan?

Yes, if you do the search on the forum, you'll see how much it's mentioned.

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I cant tolerate it at all!

I'm not sure it causes me any problems, but I avoid it.
Welcome back soystud.

thanks gonk - I just had a momentary loss of sense - absenteeism will prevail !

thanks isf !

Seems it's also found in infant formula as well...;(

It's been banned in some European countries ( at least as far as infant formula is concerned).

But in the US, well, let's just say that it's profit over health...

SO MUCH FOR THE MYTHS
CONSIDER THE FACTS ON CARRAGEENAN FOR A CHANGE

Q. What is Carrageenan??

A. Carrageenan is a naturally-occurring seaweed extract. It is widely used in foods and non-foods to improve texture and stability. Common uses include meat and poultry, dairy products, canned pet food, cosmetics and toothpaste.
Q. Why the controversy?
A. Self-appointed consumer watchdogs have produced numerous web pages filled with words condemning carrageenan as an unsafe food additive for human consumption. However, in 70+ years of carrageenan being used in processed foods, not a single substantiated claim of an acute or chronic disease has been reported as arising from carrageenan consumption. On a more science-based footing, food regulatory agencies in the US, the EU, and in the UN’s Food and Agriculture Organization/World Health Organization (FAO/WHO) repeatedly review and continue to approve carrageenan as a safe food additive.
Q. What has led up to this misrepresentation of the safety of an important food stabilizer, gelling agent and thickener?
A. It clearly has to be attributed to the research of Dr. Joanne Tobacman, an Associate Prof at the University of Illinois in Chicago. She and a group of molecular biologists have accused carrageenan of being a potential inflammatory agent as a conclusion from laboratory experiments with cells of the digestive tract. It requires a lot of unproven assumptions to even suggest that consumption of carrageenan in the human diet causes inflammatory diseases of the digestive tract. The objectivity of the Chicago research is also flawed by the fact that Dr Tobacman has tried to have carrageenan declared an unsafe food additive on weak technical arguments that she broadcast widely a decade before the University of Chicago research began.
Q. What brings poligeenan into a discussion of carrageenan?
A. Poligeenan (“degraded carrageenan” in pre-1988 scientific and regulatory publications) is a possible carcinogen to humans; carrageenan is not. The only relationship between carrageenan and poligeenan is that the former is the starting material to make the latter. Poligeenan is not a component of carrageenan and cannot be produced in the digestive tract from carrageenan-containing foods.

Q. What are the differences between poligeenan and carrageenan?
A. The production process for poligeenan requires treating carrageenan with strong acid at high temp (about that of boiling water) for 6 hours or more. These severe processing conditions convert the long chains of carrageenan to much shorter ones: ten to one hundred times shorter. In scientific terms the molecular weight of poligeenan is 10,000 to 20,000; whereas that of carrageenan is 200,000 to 800,000. Concern has been raised about the amount of material in carrageenan with molecular weight less than 50,000. The actual amount (well under 1%) cannot even be detected accurately with current technology. Certainly it presents no threat to human health.
Q. What is the importance of these molecular weight differences?
A. Poligeenan contains a fraction of material low enough in molecular weight that it can penetrate the walls of the digestive tract and enter the blood stream. The molecular weight of carrageenan is high enough that this penetration is impossible. Animal feeding studies starting in the 1960s have demonstrated that once the low molecular weight fraction of poligeenan enters the blood stream in large enough amounts, pre-cancerous lesions begin to form. These lesions are not observed in animals fed with a food containing carrageenan.
Q. Does carrageenan get absorbed in the digestive track?
A. Carrageenan passes through the digestive system intact, much like food fiber. In fact, carrageenan is a combination of soluble and insoluble nutritional fiber, though its use level in foods is so low as not to be a significant source of fiber in the diet.
Summary
Carrageenan has been proven completely safe for consumption. Poligeenan is not a component of carrageenan.
Closing Remarks
The consumer watchdogs with their blogs and websites would do far more service to consumers by researching their sources and present only what can be substantiated by good science. Unfortunately we are in an era of media frenzy that rewards controversy.
Additional information available:
On June 11th, 2008, Dr. Joanne Tobacman petitioned the FDA to revoke the current regulations permitting use of carrageenan as a food additive.
On June 11th, 2012 the FDA denied her petition, categorically addressing and ultimately dismissing all of her claims; their rebuttal supported by the results of several in-depth, scientific studies.
If you would like to read the full petition and FDA response, they can be accessed at http://www.regulations.gov/#!searchResults;rpp=25;po=0;s=FDA-2008-P-0347

SO WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY HERE DEBBIEDOESHEALINGWELL ?

seriously, if I read all that in one sitting, my brain would go goofy - are you pro carra or not ?

Wow, I had no idea about this. I am going to watch my food labels.

I read labels and avoid it if I can. It's hard to find some dairy products that don't have it -- for instance, most buttermilk does.

InSoFla, I know the powdered formula we use for my daughter does not have carrageenan. I was curious, though, so did some looking at three other brands. None of the powdered formulas contained it, and only one of the liquid formulations did. The great majority of babies on formula get the powdered stuff, so there's that, at least.

ETA that I think it makes the texture of stuff gross.  Like I said, it's in a lot of dairy products.  I accidentally got some sour cream that had it, and it had a really terrible gloppy texture.  Same goes for cottage cheese that has it.  Ick.

Apparently, DebbieYoung is paid to write these comments. This is straight from Char­lotte Val­laeys, director of the Cornucopia Institute:

"The long com­ment titled "So much for the myths" was ini­tially com­posed by Dr. Har­ris Bixler, a direc­tor of the inter­na­tional trade asso­ci­a­tion for car­rageenan man­u­fac­tur­ers, which includes multi­bil­lion dol­lar chem­i­cal cor­po­ra­tions like FMC Cor­po­ra­tion and DuPont. Dr. Bixler was at the National Organic Stan­dards Board meet­ing in May 2012, to lobby for the con­tin­ued use of car­rageenan in organic foods. He has for years attempted to dis­credit the work of pub­licly funded sci­en­tists like Dr. Tobac­man. This response has been posted to nearly all blogs that address car­rageenan, so I wanted you to know where this infor­ma­tion is com­ing from.

Thanks for writ­ing about this, and help­ing edu­cate oth­ers about the harm­ful effects of this com­mon food additive.

Char­lotte Val­laeys
Direc­tor, Farm and Food Pol­icy
The Cor­nu­copia Insti­tute
http://www.cornucopia.org
- See more at: http://www.sweetpotatochronicles.com/wordpress/2013/02/whats-so-bad-about-carrageenan/#sthash.jH7jP1U2.dpuf"

Wow, processed food industry shils are now posting (or their bots are, anyway) on forums it seems, sad.