Vegan = normal life and no meds

How do you go from meat to vegetables? I was a vegetarian like Ima before my disease hit, but I had to put meat into my diet just to get some nutrients. My colon can't even handle lettuce without it freaking out and causing huge amounts of pain and grief for me.
I can't picture myself doing that to my body.

Sibby, check out something like Dr. John McDougall's "The Starch Solution." Eating vegan doesn't mean eating just lettuce or any lettuce at all ;)

The Starch Solution - John McDougall MD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XVf36nwraw

Health and healing to you.

Everyone is different, there is no doubt about that. I congratulate your effort to enlighten certain individuals who may be helped with veganism. However, there is no crystal clear diet for Ulcerative Colitis. My experience with raw veganism ended miserably, but it has assisted many other Ulcerative Colitis sufferers. This condition is complex and everyone's experience is unique.

When it comes to meat, it is key to avoid red meats on a regular basis. Also, free run organic chicken and wild fish should be the main types of meat consumed. Processed foods should be avoided like the plague.

I wish everyone all the best and hope that everyone could find the best fitting diet and lifestyle.

seems an extreme example of one vs the other.

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I went off on a guy in a forum once that said if you just did 50 sit ups a day your UC would be cured. Worked for him, lol. At least this is something that made enough sense at one point that I tried it.

1) None of what has been stated above about meats is scientifically true. Meat does not putrefy in the body, nor does it have a slow transit time. Ketogenic diets are now becoming the first line of treatment for epilepsy and other neurological disorders. Kids that would otherwise be on medications their whole lives now are able to live normally thanks to the diet.

2) Going on a vegan diet is asking for trouble in the long term. It may hold some therapeutic value for a few weeks, as it's already an improvement over the standard american diet, but beyond that it sets the body up for multiple deficiencies. There are vegan cohorts that have been studied and the results are not pretty. Everything from bone deformities to suboptimal brain function has been recorded. This is because fat soluble vitamins A,D, E and K are among the most important nutrients in the body. Zinc and B12 deficiencies are also fairly common as most veggies are copper rich.

3) My n=1 experiment with veganism was such a complete failure that it ended up causing adrenal fatigue and nutrient deficiencies. It turns out that cholesterol is needed to synthesize everything from sex hormones to vitamin D, not to mention coenzyme q10, which every cell in the body needs to thrive. Most UCers are already on drugs that deplete most of these nutrients.

I would really think twice about going vegan. It sucks that animals get tortured, but this is in the factory farm setting. Our ancestors thrived off meat and there's evidence suggesting that we developed larger brains due to meat consumption. Meat raised humanely and on pasture is the way to go, as it more closely simulates how our descendants ate it.

I don't mean this to be inflammatory but I think it is kind of funny when people talk about raising animals for consumption humanely, so we can slit their throats when the time comes. Of course I'm not for raising them inhumanely. It's just kind of funny.

Even though I am a meat eater I find the whole process disgusting and revolting. I just bury my head in the sand and buy the packaged meats and not think about how they got there. I really don't buy into the Paleo thing though. I just don't believe that our bodies were only designed to ingest what was around a couple of hundred thousand years ago. There is this evolution thing going on where our bodies adjust to new environments, etc. That's another argument though.

There's also new and compelling evidence indicating that plants communicate with each other and feel pain as well, but you don't see vegans excommunicating plants from their diets. That would leave them with nothing to eat. They'll simply acknowledge the evidence that agrees with them and disregard everything else that doesn't. It's a lose-lose situation when it comes to food. Yes, we should all strive to be morally sound when it comes to food choices, but evolution isn't pretty.

It's all Adam and Eve's fault.

Sibby said...
Why don't we all eat dirt. No paleo. No SCD. No diet's whatsoever.

We are dirt eater's. Is that ethically correct for ya? lol

Believe it or not but geophagy is an actual practice where an individual eats dirt. It's not unusual for people to crave it considering it was abundant in our fruits and veggies... Those who interact with dirt generally have fewer allergies and better microbiomes.

The irony of this habit is that dirt is behind the emergence of sbo probiotics like prescript assist, which are now clinically shown to help ibs and other gastrointestinal ailments. Time will tell whether it will "cure" IBD, but the research on it is fascinating to say at the least.

Eating dirt is also a sign of Pica = aka eating strange things because you have a psychological need.

The thing that kills me in the "digestive transit time" arguments... what if you eat meat then fruit. Will the fruit still pass through in 5 to 6 hours? Wouldn't the meat stop it up? Not that I believe the meat "rotting" argument, I'm just being goofy.

Average time for stomach digestion is 1.5 hours. Average time for the small intestine is another 4. So fruits and vegetable would pass through the large intestine in an hour? I don't think so.