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Posted 3/21/2014 12:31 AM (GMT 0)
Hi All ,

I am noticing that every time I try resistance starch ( plantain flour ) , I bleed . Not just gases . Significant bleeding . I gave up a few times but so many times I keep on reading about its benefits so I keep on trying . I tried it again today mixing one tablespoon with my kefir in the morning and am bleeding now . Also the texture of stool is very soft. Not diarrhea soft , but close .Anyone noticed any problems like this?
Posted 3/21/2014 1:08 AM (GMT 0)
Sounds like plantain flour isn't good for your gut.

I've only used potato starch for my resistant starch and haven't had any issues even taking 6 tablespoons a day. You could try that -i think it has less fiber than plantain flour.
Posted 3/21/2014 1:27 AM (GMT 0)
There's no guarantee with anything. Many things make some people better while those very same things make others worse. Pretty much every UC'r has a microbial imbalance but everyone's imbalance is different, which is why some things work great in some and not in others. Personally I think you have had enough evidence to give up on plantain flour. That doesn't necessarily mean though that resistant starches are wrong for you.
Posted 3/21/2014 1:33 AM (GMT 0)
potato starch (bob's Redmill) seems to work just fine for me as well. Never tried Plantation flour. I'd drop it if you're bleeding, perhaps rest a bit and maybe give potato starch a go. If you bleed from that as well then you know starches and flours are not your thing...
Posted 3/21/2014 2:20 AM (GMT 0)
Could be the fiber in plantain flour, not sure how that is made. I do not handle plantains well but no trouble with potatoes or potato starch. My gut also hates coconut flour and I know that is due to the fiber.
Posted 3/21/2014 2:32 AM (GMT 0)
I started resistant starches with foods like cold pasta and potato salads. I know green bananas and lentils make me miserable, so I didn't try them. I may not be getting the most benefit, but if I can choose pasta salad over coleslaw as a side dish, why not?

You may be fine with lots of other forms of RS.
Posted 3/21/2014 8:26 AM (GMT 0)
It could be the plantains themselves due to the serotonin activity. If you read around gut inflammation and serotonin that explains some of it. It's going to be trial and error as your individual genetics will affect how your body uses serotonin as well as the current inflammation status of your gut. I'd try different RS for now.
Posted 3/21/2014 11:46 AM (GMT 0)
Are you using barry's farm plantain flour? I think they use ripe plantains, so it has a higher fructose content. I do much better with green (unripe) plantains.
Posted 3/21/2014 12:02 PM (GMT 0)
I would try another form if RS for sure. I use potato starch and green bananas as well as beans/lentils for mine.
Posted 3/21/2014 5:20 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks All. Really great feedback. Looks like the plantain flour is a No-No for now. I had actually tried it some time back and it went well for me at that time (that was the only time I didn't have any major problems). Other than some gas, it was fairly well (and I lost 5 lb in about a week, which was actually good), but after I ran out of the pack, it took them 2.5 months to send me a new one after I ordered. So I was starting it again and this time my gut is not in the mood... Oh well..... I will switch to potato starch and may be at some point try green bananas.
PoignantGuardian, yes I am using barry's farm plantain flour. Thanks for the tip. If they are actually using ripe plantains, then it's nut much of use as RS, regardless of whether mu gut can handle it or not... I'll just stay away.
Posted 3/21/2014 5:32 PM (GMT 0)
So....is the blood in your stool, alone mixed with mucus/stool?

Is the asacol pill dosage 400 or 800?

I'd lean towards flaring....but they're symptoms you might personally recognise as such.

In the meantime...while you're making switches on your diet, you could consider to treat the said bleeding as inflammation....rectal meds?

q
Posted 3/21/2014 5:40 PM (GMT 0)

SMfromCA said...
Thanks All. Really great feedback. Looks like the plantain flour is a No-No for now. I had actually tried it some time back and it went well for me at that time (that was the only time I didn't have any major problems). Other than some gas, it was fairly well (and I lost 5 lb in about a week, which was actually good), but after I ran out of the pack, it took them 2.5 months to send me a new one after I ordered. So I was starting it again and this time my gut is not in the mood... Oh well..... I will switch to potato starch and may be at some point try green bananas.
PoignantGuardian, yes I am using barry's farm plantain flour. Thanks for the tip. If they are actually using ripe plantains, then it's nut much of use as RS, regardless of whether mu gut can handle it or not... I'll just stay away.

The only negative review of the product indicated it tasted like bananas, but only after purchasing and trying it for myself did I find out they used ripe plantains, which tastes pretty darn similar to ripe bananas. If it has a sweet texture, then you know it's ripe.

As far as I know, there's only one company in the world that sells unripe banana flour and that's WEDO. They started selling on amazon recently. I had better luck with that, though you'd have to experiment and see if it works out for you.
Posted 3/21/2014 6:14 PM (GMT 0)
Quincy, blood is with soft stool. I don't see much mucus. What works for me these days is Canasa suppository before going to bed. If I have blood in the morning, I sometimes use prep H suppository after the first morning BM (which is as soon as I am up). I generally have another BM after breakfast (BTW, I have noticed that flossing the gums triggers a BM most of the times. Is it just me or has anyone else noticed this?). If I still have blood, I use proctofoam during the day (if I am home). So plenty of back end activity if I get any symptoms. (400mg Asacol X 2ce a day). This, along with 3 drops of wild Oregano Oil 2ce a day and a scoop of L Threonine before going to bed generally brings the symptoms in control in a day or two. Today morning has already been much better than yesterday.

You are absolutely right. At least in my case, rectal meds help a LOT.

PoignantGuardian, I never paid close attention to the taste of the flour as I mix it with the kefir and powdered probiotic... I will sure check out WEDO on Amazon. Thanks for the tip.
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