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Posted 3/30/2014 8:13 PM (GMT 0)
Ok - trying chinese herbal enema with eminent doctor but my son just can't get the enema to work! It's all set up - he lies on his left side, he checks for air locks, inserts the nozzle bit. But he says he can't get the liquid to go in - like his bowel is full or something - so weird. Any ideas guys?
Posted 3/30/2014 8:32 PM (GMT 0)
Is it just too difficult to squeeze it out of the nozzle? Has he tried a practice run of squeezing some test goo in the the garbage or sink or anything? I know my crinkly salofalk enemas took some getting used to. I've never felt it too full to get the goo in....even after not pooping for a day or two...the goo just goes in. Sounds like more of an equipment failure. Sometimes I need to two hand squeeze the enema to get it started, then it would flow much easier. Seems like sometimes the enemas are packed tightly, or two much of the lube stuff kinda blocks the opening, sometimes it requires a good squirt. I always squirt it out in the garbage until I see the medicine goo come out, not just the lube stuff, then I lay down and get friendly with the enema tongue
Posted 3/30/2014 9:18 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks for the reply. - the enema's set up in a bag and a long tube - like the old fashioned ones as it's a liquid.
Posted 3/30/2014 9:36 PM (GMT 0)
if the herbs are not blocking the flow, then your son may be clenching too tight. can/has he used other enemas?
Posted 3/30/2014 10:16 PM (GMT 0)
so it flows fine till he sticks it up his butt ?
Posted 3/30/2014 10:20 PM (GMT 0)
Exactly! At least that what it seems.
Posted 3/30/2014 10:21 PM (GMT 0)
may be,he needs to relax his muscles little bit. Ask him to take few deep breath and then insert and squeeze very slow.
Posted 3/30/2014 10:51 PM (GMT 0)
commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Combination_enema_and_douche_syringe.jpg

so is this kinda what you are using ?

and when does he try it ? am/pm ?
Posted 3/30/2014 11:40 PM (GMT 0)
Hiya
Lancashire lad here.
I have had UC for about 25 years with flare ups happening more and more often. I'm 74 yoa and this flare is really getting me down.
Here in the UK we have the NHS which mostly works, but our GP's are a bit naff- many young and not very knowledgeable in UC.
I'm currently on 40mg of Predisolone reducing by 10 mg/week. I have taken Mezavant XL 5600 mg daily for 14 days reducing to my usual maintenance dose of 2600 mg in another 2 days, have been on this for years. I was given a foam enema of Asocal, but no sooner have I used it - in the bathroom fortunately, I am unable to retain it and have a bowel movement more or less straight away.
I wonder if this bowel movement is usual or if it signals a more serious condition - I feel as though my colon is tighter and in spite of the motion being loose, can be quite painful.
At the moment I am having to loo about 15/20+ times daily which is mostly loose and sometimes bloody. The movements also occur when I start to move around as opposed to sitting, and often after a meal.
I'd be grateful for support or comment. The UC is really getting me down.
Thanks.
Posted 3/31/2014 6:48 AM (GMT 0)
Yes, Soystud that's exactly it. The amount he has to use probably fills the tube.
Posted 3/31/2014 8:37 AM (GMT 0)
well then, I think the problem is lack of gravity - i.e., I don't think there is enough volume to create the needed flow to overcome the butt resistance - you need to squeeze the bag !

or, try a different method of delivering the poop-shake - many folks, including me, use an empty one of these (bottom image)>




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Posted 3/31/2014 10:33 AM (GMT 0)
Thanks, Soystud, we have tried different heights - got it hanging off chairs, pictures - all sorts!! How could I get an empty one of what you have - that looks more sensible! We are in the UK.
Posted 3/31/2014 11:56 AM (GMT 0)
yup, you don't have enough volume -

how bout a turkey baster ? or, like I said, can you squeeze the bag ? you just don't want to pump a bunch of air up his butt -

is the tubing clear ?


this, or something like it, is what you need to get >

www.amazon.com/Fleet-Disposable-Enema-Bottle-Value/dp/B002BLP2YK

Post Edited (soystud) : 3/31/2014 5:59:46 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 3/31/2014 10:12 PM (GMT 0)
Going to order from amazon - thanks so much - will update you.... thanks so much
Posted 3/31/2014 10:39 PM (GMT 0)
hope those get the job done - good luck -
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