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Posted 5/13/2014 2:55 PM (GMT 0)
Looks like it does something for mucus, in addition to feeding colon cells.

Might give it another try along with NAG.

As  side note on NAG I have read to dissolve in a tablespoon of hot water and hold it in your mouth for

a minute or so. Other wise oral ingestion much is destroyed in the gut along with first pass in the liver.

Administration of butyrate in the drinking water stimulated GlcNAc6ST-2 expression in the mouse intestine.

http://www.jbc.org/content/285/9/6750.full

Old Mike

 

Post Edited (Old Mike) : 5/13/2014 9:01:19 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 5/13/2014 3:21 PM (GMT 0)
I read something that said Oral butyrate might worsen your condition in some cases. May feed the bad bacteria?? Can't remember if Path or Dr Briggs posted it.
Posted 5/13/2014 7:09 PM (GMT 0)
It sure wasnt me..I big puffy heart butyrate.

My only pause is that it has been implicated in being able to reactivate EBV. I've only heard one person it may have happened to at this point.. So unless you have a history of ebv I don't really have any reservations
Posted 5/13/2014 7:38 PM (GMT 0)
I think the butyrate is helping me a bit. It seems to keep things moving and therefore I have less pain.
Posted 5/14/2014 2:13 AM (GMT 0)
PK..... I do have a history of EBV. Do you think I should stop taking butyrate?
Posted 5/14/2014 2:43 AM (GMT 0)
Put me in a lot of pain. Used it for 3 days and had to stop.
Posted 5/14/2014 2:59 AM (GMT 0)
churey,
Butyrate? And you added nothing else at the same time or right before? That's unfortunate.

UCandme.. the plus side is that it kills it after it reactivates it in the studies.. Id probably take it unless you recognized any negative reaction. But everyone can react differently. Do you get sick alot?
Posted 5/14/2014 3:01 AM (GMT 0)
i tried NAG and butyrate but not at the same time. wonder if that would've made any difference. both of them one their own didn't do anything for me.
Posted 5/14/2014 3:32 AM (GMT 0)
Has anyone ever found or come across Enteric Coated Butyrate Supplements? I know they have them for animals...
Posted 5/14/2014 3:42 AM (GMT 0)
Mark
I bought these.
The bottle said it has lead in them, but I took them anyway because I'm desperate.
http://www.vitacost.com/nutricology-butyraid-100-tablets
Posted 5/14/2014 8:19 AM (GMT 0)
Would be interesting to know how oral butyrate might compare with rectal preparation? Makes me wonder what effect butter enemas might have (sudden visions of Last Tango in Paris!).

On the NAG, I was thinking that eating prawns with the parts of their shells that are not too sharp might give us this? I think NAG bought as a supplement is made from Crustacean shells? If anyone remembers the Foy baboon papers I posted back on the B2 thread something that came up was that baboons in captivity always had lower readings of B12 (and possibly some other vits/minerals, would need to go back and look) and they put this down to the captive baboons not being able to source insects to eat as they would in the wild.
Posted 5/14/2014 9:52 AM (GMT 0)
The study I posted indicates that the oral butyrate gets to the colon at least in the mice.
They have done trials on butyrate enemas , did not help that much.
Probably the best way to get butyrate is to feed the colon bacteria, with none digestible material
from veggie matter, such as RS.
There is a whole ecosystem in the colon where waste from on bacteria such as acetic acid feeds the
next type which might make butyrate. Of course this can only happen if you bacteria has not been
wiped out by antibiotics or the immune system or overgrowth of other types of bacteria.
My point in posting was to indicate that the butyrate helps to generate sulfo mucins.
Old Mike
Posted 5/14/2014 2:44 PM (GMT 0)
NAG would make me so sick. I finally got on top of my lyme so that would wreck me.

My doc uses NAG to challenge lyme because it LOVES it so that the Lyme will finally pop positive on testing.
Posted 5/17/2014 2:21 AM (GMT 0)
No I don't get sick a lot other than stomach and migraine issues.
Posted 5/17/2014 3:19 PM (GMT 0)
UCandMe,
Id try butyrate and if you notice any mono symptoms stop.. or you could take lauricidin or olive leaf concurrently to deal with any possible scenarios in advance
Posted 5/17/2014 7:30 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you :) would I take all of this indefinitely or for a certain period of time?
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