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Posted 9/11/2014 3:38 AM (GMT 0)
Si, senor.

I did pretty good for a while there in 2011. I probably got worse from the stress of dating this fairly crazy girl that summer. It was fun, but not so easy on me I'm guessing.

I tried the SCD for around 2 weeks, and was losing weight so fast it wasn't funny. My gut was not a fan of berries and nuts all the time.

I managed in this general area of good times (2-4 bms/day) to not so good (6-7 bms/day with some urgency and blood) until January 2012. Then I flared, either due to high stress or this Chinese Medicine I was trying. Can't say which, though the latter feels probable.
Posted 9/11/2014 4:20 AM (GMT 0)
this is what i found interesting =

26 year old male.
Left sided UC since 2003, moderate in severity.

-Pentasa 2g daily... for now.
-No meds through 6mp have worked very long. Refuse to take Remicade presently.
-George's Aloe Vera Juice, Psyllium husks, turmeric powder, L-glutamine, Wild Oregano Oil, and Olive Leaf Extract.
-Experimenting with diet and stress control.
-Began Specific Carbohydrate Diet on 6/20/11.



seems like you were doing pretty well at that point -

oh, and what month in 03 was your dx ?
Posted 9/11/2014 4:49 AM (GMT 0)
I've had MUCH better success with the AIP diet than with the SCD.

Stuff like eggs made me feel like throwing up. Same goes for nuts and seeds, and as it turns out, a lot of fruit, which I'm starting to link to a high GI load no matter what the source of carbs is.

That being said, AIP is also a lot more difficult to follow than SCD. Takes about 1 month before it's starts getting easier. For me anyway. But I have 1 solid BW a day. Every morning.

Haven't really tested dairy, but I just don't think we were evolutioned to drink milk from a cow. Lactose or not. We are supposed to drink milk from our mama's breast, and only for a year ish.

Pork ****s me up.

Looking forward to seeing how it's going.
Posted 9/11/2014 1:57 PM (GMT 0)
Soy, I was doing fairly well then. I had spent 1.5 years diving into all sorts of alternative healing books and trying different supplements. I still got to a point that summer where I was at around 6 or so BM's with some blood. That wasn't exactly good.

My symptoms would routinely wax and wane over the years, with an almost gauranteed flare every 12 or so months that would need extra attention.

I was diagnosed in May 2003, the year I was graduating high school.

I flared significantly in January 2012. It was BAD. I spent three weeks stuck at home I was so sick. I had been trying Chinese Medicine, and I wonder if what he gave me caused that flare... as the flare started about two days after him giving me a last attempt try with a tincture that was said to effect the nerves somehow.
Posted 9/11/2014 1:58 PM (GMT 0)
Michael, what is AIP?
Posted 9/11/2014 2:02 PM (GMT 0)
Thoreau - A variation of the paleo diet, but just without a bunch of stuff that might trigger something bad in you. But you reintroduce stuff after about a month, to see what you can tolerate.

AIP (Autoimmune Paleo Protocol).
Posted 9/11/2014 5:18 PM (GMT 0)
I know two people who have had incredible success on the AIP. I could never give up eggs and other foods that would be necessary I don't think.
Posted 9/11/2014 5:50 PM (GMT 0)
Hey Michael,

When you did AIP did you also eliminate starchy foods on AIP as well, as in no sweet potatoes, plantains etc? I did SCD for about 2 years with no real improvement, and then I did AIP which seemed to have helped some but not enough and I flared horribly anyways.

Now I'm trying a combo of AIP and SCD and am going to see how it goes. I'm also on a different med though, so I won't really know what is helping.

It's interesting that you say pork really messed you up, because it does the same with me too. I'm actually a bit afraid to add anything back at this point since I've been feeling good.

How long did it take for you to see results?
Posted 9/12/2014 12:57 AM (GMT 0)
Hi Octobergirl.

I was diagnosed and immediately got Pentasa suppositories. A few days after I also started AIP.

Got to 1-2 BW a day within 3 weeks I believe, and as I weaned off the meds, my results maintained.
I have been blessed in a way, seeing as BWs never really was the big issue for me. I don't remember when I hit 1 solid BW every morning, but I guess it must've been about 2 months in. On the other hand, having nausea all the time can be really bad too!

But now nausea is like my body telling me, sometimes within 1 hour of eating something, that this isn't good, please don't eat that in the future. Sometimes it takes upwards of 12 hours.

I've reintroduced fruits twice, and both times I've started having slight nausea that builds over days/weeks.
Same goes for nuts - I'm fine for 1 week, and then it kicks in, I eat a handful of nuts, or nut butter, and after 30 minutes, I get nausea.

Stool wise, I wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Nuts, fruits, sushi, all comes out sort of the same.

All that being said, I haven't had a gram of sugar, dairy or grain (besides 3 servings of rice), since I was diagnosed. So if I ate stuff like that, who knows what'll happen? I just don't have the guts to try it.

AIP is tough though. Especially when you find out that even things that are legal on that diet can mess with you, like pork.

Yes, I also removed starches as well. I guess there are no starches in vegetables? Not sure about that one.

- I eat a lot of roots, carrots, selery and the likes.
- Fish seem to be very, very easy going on me. Like eating the feather of an angel, it just carresses your insides in the most autoimmune sensitive way.
- All coconut seems fine and dandy. Except huge quantities of creamed coconut. Wooops.
- Eat a lot of berries, which are also absolutely fine for me.
- Just introduced beef gelatin. Which is epic for berry gummies.
- All fermented vegetables are great.

I also find that carbs on an empty stomach might trigger nausea.

But as far as I've read in here, the diets that work on people are VERY different. Which is also why AIP might be a solution for some. It's sort of like removing everything and the reintroducing 1 thing at a time, to make sure that you can tolerate it. Although apparently I can't really tolerate anything....lol..

I think it could be really interesting for you to do AIP with no fruit. I know low carb is kind of a hippie thing, but there is something about those carbs!

Post Edited (Michael88) : 9/11/2014 7:02:27 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 9/12/2014 5:30 AM (GMT 0)
Michael- when you say roots, what are examples of those? Thanks :)
Posted 9/12/2014 5:31 AM (GMT 0)
Michael- one more q- what's the difference between scd and aip?
Posted 9/12/2014 6:56 AM (GMT 0)
Hi there.

Sorry, I'm not native english speaking, so I don't know all the names of the vegetables.

All the things that are roots of plants. So beets, carrots, selery, those white things that look like carrots, etc. Anything that grows underground I guess, except for the NoNo's of course, like potatoes.

The difference between AIP and SCD is quite big. AIP excludes many more things that SCD doesn't. Like dairy, some grains, nuts, seeds, to a certain degree fruit, etc.

But as mentioned before, what works for one person might not exactly work for someone else. Or so people say.
But AIP has really helped me work out what I can tolerate and what I can't.

Post Edited (Michael88) : 9/12/2014 1:52:52 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 9/12/2014 2:38 PM (GMT 0)
Nice that's exciting. Do you eat sweet potatoes and yams then?
Posted 9/12/2014 4:23 PM (GMT 0)
Nope, not until a few days ago where I ate a sweet potato. No issues.
Posted 9/12/2014 7:01 PM (GMT 0)
Oh I see so you had to leave out starches awhile then? How long you been doing paleo
Posted 9/13/2014 3:58 AM (GMT 0)
On off for a year before I was diagnosed. Post diagnosis about 5-6 months ago I've been 100%.
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