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Posted 4/4/2016 2:49 PM (GMT 0)
Been taking curcumin for about 5 months 660mg/day, did not seem to make me bleed more

rectally as opposed to turmeric.

Well last night I cut myself, only about a 1/4 inch cut not deep on finger.

Could not stop the bleeding for like 20 minutes, finally decided to take a vitamin K-1 pill, which stopped it

in 10 minutes. Blood all over the place multiple paper towels.

So I am done with curcumin even though it seemed to help the UC.

Old Mike

 

Posted 4/4/2016 3:03 PM (GMT 0)
Is that dosage a usual one?

Maybe that in combo with other possible blood thinning type or enhancing foods/supplements could be a part of the reason?

Some cuts are way deeper and might bleed longer?

Could you add the vitamin K to your intake of curcumin....or at least have your vitamin k level checked?

q
Posted 4/4/2016 3:13 PM (GMT 0)
Nice to know. I bought some curcumin about a week ago. I've been hesitant to take it since I'm on a low dose aspirin regimen. Appreciate the heads-up!
Posted 4/4/2016 3:18 PM (GMT 0)
this is actually interesting. i've been taking curcumin for years now but never connected my "non stop bleeding" to it. i have a lot of kitchen mishaps that leave me bleeding for over an hour!!! i seriously couldnt believe how strong my blood flow was. i get blood work done all the time and my doctor never mentions anything about my blood.
Posted 4/4/2016 3:20 PM (GMT 0)
Yike, that's scary Mike. Here I thought all of these natural treatments had absolutely zero side effects and only benefits wink
Posted 4/4/2016 3:24 PM (GMT 0)
Fish oil is also a blood thinner from what I understand bacon girl. I take a little fish oil and a low dose aspirin already so I think I'm going to leave the curcumin alone for now.
Posted 4/4/2016 3:46 PM (GMT 0)
Well in experiments they have people take up to 3 grams of curcumin a day.

Looks like 660mg curcumin is like eating 22 grams of pure turmeric powder.

A small bottle of the spice is 26 grams, so that is quite a bit.
anticoagulant properties

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22531131

I also got into problems with too much fish oil but that I could see rectally.


Believe me I would not have posted this if I did not think it was a real problem.

Scared the crap out of me,never seen anything like it, probably have cut myself

a 1000 times in the past 60 or so years, blood all over the place from a little cut.

Old Mike

Post Edited (Old Mike) : 4/5/2016 5:35:44 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 4/4/2016 3:49 PM (GMT 0)
joker, oh geez. i take fish oil, too. might have to alternate when i take them so if i actually get a bad wound, i dont bleed to death.

off topic, but do you think it can affect a woman's period?
Posted 4/4/2016 3:52 PM (GMT 0)
People in south Asian countries apply turmeric to cuts/wounds to stop blood and as an antiseptic agent.
Posted 4/4/2016 4:41 PM (GMT 0)
Bacon girl. I've been taking fish oil and low dose aspirin for a long time. My identical twin had a heart attack so the doc thought it would be a good idea. Lately I've seen studies that show that low dose aspirin does little to prevent heart attacks.....but does help in reducing reoccurrence of them. I'm maintaining the fish oil and reducing the aspirin to see how I feel. Currently I'm not having any UC bleeding.

Since I already bleed a bit more when I cut myself I decided not to add the curcumin (at least until I stop taking low dose aspirin altogether).

I think it's important to note that increased bleeding could be a factor when you take aspirin, fish oil or curcumin etc. and if you notice more bleeding you may have to make some changes.

Post Edited (Joker) : 4/4/2016 10:44:19 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 4/4/2016 6:03 PM (GMT 0)
I currently take turmeric capsules 400 mg 4x/day (for a total of 1.6 grams).
I've also done those 6x/day (2.4 g). And I've tried a different brand (these were standardized turmeric 95% curcuminoids, with biopiperine, to see if it made a difference, lol), at 900 mg 4x/day (3.6 g).

I don't think I've ever notice increased bleeding from this! I've only found it beneficial for my uc. Although I've taken turmeric for so long now I'm not sure if i'd know if any bleeding from cuts is abnormal. I was taking vitamin e 100 iu for a while, thought it might help with tissue healing, but stopped it because of blood thinning concerns. i also tried fish oil for uc and stopped it because i didn't see any difference, plus the blood thinning concerns (although looking back i don't think it was a good quality fish oil anyways...i'm a bit more knowledgeable on my health and supplements now than i was 5 years ago!). although i've also read that uc'ers are at increased risk for blood clots? the turmeric though i always figured is so beneficial for my uc that i wouldn't want to stop taking it.

i do know that if going for surgery, you are supposed to stop taking fish oil 2 weeks before. it's definitely important to disclose any supplements to your doctor! (and even just research it on your own--some doctors aren't familiar with many supplements & will just dismiss concerns) there are others that can act as blood thinners (such as garlic & ginkgo biloba), or interact with other drugs too.

bacongirl--i wouldn't think it could affect the amount of blood you lose because the body just wants to get rid of uterine lining. but i wasn't sure so i searched and found this: http://www.everydayhealth.com/specialists/woman/etingin/qa/blood-thinners-affect-menstrual-cycles/index.aspx
seems like it could affect blood flow, but again, shouldn't cause any serious differences.
Posted 4/4/2016 6:18 PM (GMT 0)
joker, funny you mention aspirin. i just read about it yesterday and it was the same thing- no proof that aspirin does anything for heart attack prevention no matter what age you are. it's not even recommended to take them at any age now (according to what i read) because the side effects outweigh the benefits.

justgettinby, thanks for looking it up. that's a relief! i know some women can struggle with anemia due to heavy periods but i havent had this problem.
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