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Posted 8/10/2016 7:26 PM (GMT 0)
It isn't a long distance healer and it isn't UC related.

I found this interesting though. It's a researcher that has been able to cure mice of two types of deadly cancer with traditional faith healing energy methods. His work has even been published. The researcher isn't sure what is happening. He doesn't believe faith is required for it to work.

It did make me wonder if the idea could help with other conditions, such as Crohns or UC.

Professor Gerald Pollack has a write up on Bill Bengston's work which can be seen below ~

http://www.ebnerandsons.com/blogs/news/14545377-can-you-cure-cancer-with-your-hands

Can you cure cancer with your hands?
Posted Friday, June 20, 2014
A totally mind-blowing experience: I had the pleasure of meeting Bill Bengston last week at the Society for Scientific Exploration. (I was present because the Society was kind enough to award me their Dinsdale Prize.) Among all the many intriguing talks at that meeting was Bill's presentation: he cures cancer in mice, with 100% success rate. He does this by using his hands. Nothing else.

Yes, this sounds awfully suspicious, but if you read his informal account in Edge Science you may be as impressed as I am. Bill has published many papers describing his procedures and results in peer-reviewed journals. He's not a cancer specialist of any sort -- in fact he's a sociologist. But he collaborates with medical and biological researchers all over the country. These mammary adenocarcinomas are 100% fatal; yet, he is able to cure them at the rate of 100%. The mice are really cured: once the tumor disappears, they live out their normal life spans, without ever contracting cancer.

The 800 pound gorilla in the room: if this treatment works so well in mice, then why not humans? Check out Bill's explanation at the end of his Edge Science piece.
Posted 8/10/2016 10:11 PM (GMT 0)
it would be interesting to know how much money he (Bengston) has already made on it :)
Posted 8/10/2016 10:44 PM (GMT 0)
A lot of people do healing for free, I don't understand why people think everything has to be done for money. Most of the healing I have received has been for free.
Posted 8/11/2016 1:38 PM (GMT 0)
Ewafromwarsaw,

In the article Bill Bengston mentions that he has recruited other skeptical healers to try the same hand cancer mice cure. The same cancer cure result happened with the volunteers.

The magazine article accompanying the article I linked to has further information on this. It can be seen here.

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0161/7154/files/EdgeScience-Magazine-v3.pdf?7861

Yeah, I wasn't going to mention this as it is odd. I've unintentionally been doing the Bill Bengston hand cancer cure on myself.

I've been earthing or grounding for a couple years. I'll do this indoors and outside. When indoors I have a grounding pad. I've told others that grounding helps my stomach. It wasn't till I read the article on Bill Benson that I realized I'm also doing his hand healing technique at the same time.

What I'll typically do is use the earthing pad while watching TV for an hour or more. I'll place the pad over my stomach, put my hands on the pad while lying down on the couch. My hands are over my stomach area. Most of the time doing this I become well to the stomach. Kind of odd, I know. It isn't a cure as it lasts only a day or two, and the fatigue I can all to often deal with will remain. What ever is going on though, I'm typically well the next day to the stomach.

Kind me wonder about the famous French leader Napoleon. He would place his hand over his stomach. It is said he did this because it made him feel better due to a stomach ailment.
Posted 8/11/2016 4:56 PM (GMT 0)
The only thing that interests me about any of this stuff is the power of the human mind and the placebo effect. To be honest I think the "placebo effect" sounds a bit too sterile and clinical, even boring, for the profound experiences that people can have using simply the power of their own mind. I mean, even laughter can be a medicine. But prednisolone and mesalazine are the real deal and can be far more effective. ;)
Posted 8/11/2016 10:18 PM (GMT 0)
Eucalyptus, thanks very much for the info, it's very intersting :) I'm usually sceptical about miracle healings, on the other hand i'd agree with Shakespeare that 'There are more things in Heaven and Earth, than are dreamt of in (my) philosophy'. Whatever it is, the power of the mind, coincidence etc, if only it works it is worth believing :)
Posted 8/12/2016 12:30 AM (GMT 0)
Placebo effect. Anybody claiming they can heal you like that is just taking advantage of people like us who are desperate for a solution.
Posted 8/12/2016 12:50 AM (GMT 0)
Not to talk to much on this as I agree in some respects it can come down to belief.

In the Bengston article is a mention about magnetics, wondering if that might be what is helping cure cancer in mice. That made some sense to me. When an electrical current runs through a wire it creates a magnetic field. The body has an electrical system in it, naturally. We measure our bodies electrical system when it comes to our heart and brain activity. Life and death is often determined by the measurement of our bodies electrical system.

Looking further I found our body has a magnetic field which can be measured. It is called the magnetoencphalogram or MEG. The field can be detected by a SQUID magnetometer. Basically all living things are surrounded by a magnetic field extending out into space.

It is known that electrical system can bring about healing. PEMF machines for example are implanted into bones that are not healing naturally. PEMF machines generate a very slight electrical current, which in the case of bones can help with bone generation healing.

Anyway, I found it fascinating. I did find a Dr that wrote a book theorizing that slight electrical currents could help cure cancer. I didn't agree with everything mentioned in the book but found it insightful.
Posted 8/12/2016 1:14 AM (GMT 0)
Hello Imran123,

I think you need to look at why you have Ulcerative Colitis. Are stressed out? Are you inactive? Does your body feel aches and pains? If so, then it's very likely that you have blockage and energy healing could help.

There are also a lot of other methods that will get the energy flowing throughout your body, many of which are not costly. Breath meditation, Qi-gong, and jumping on a trampoline will all help move energy through the body.

The important thing is to research reviews on the Internet (which you are doing right now), while being careful of fake reviews. Also, just because you learn something, doesn't mean it will help. You have to implement it.

Right now, I'm very interested in Nia Dance. It's very de-stressing and is a gentle way of getting energy flowing through the body. Plus, I love to dance. I also do hula hooping dance, which is great for the circulatory (lymphatic and blood) systems.
Posted 8/12/2016 1:22 AM (GMT 0)

Eucalyptus said...
Kind me wonder about the famous French leader Napoleon. He would place his hand over his stomach. It is said he did this because it made him feel better due to a stomach ailment.

Yes. I find that putting my hand on my stomach is very calming. It brings my mind's attention to my abdomen and relaxes it.

The medical industry has only recently discovered the strong connection between the mind and the gut. Most of serotonin and melatonin are produced in the gut. The gut and the brain communicate through the vagus nerve. People who have gut issues tend to have anxiety and depression, and people who have anxiety and depression tend to have gut issues.
Posted 8/12/2016 1:28 AM (GMT 0)
I have neither anxiety nor depression. I'm a hopeless optimist and very happy-go-lucky, always have been.
Posted 8/12/2016 1:45 AM (GMT 0)
It's weird how people who believe in stuff like energy healing are also the ones who are going back to to the attitudes of the 1950s and earlier, when colitis was considered a psychosomatic disease and the people who got it neurotics. ('Neurosis' was a popular term a few decades ago.)

How is re-stigmatising UC as a psychosomatic disease meant to be helpful? It's an organic disease with physical causes.
Posted 8/12/2016 1:50 AM (GMT 0)
There was a meta analysis that came out a few years ago stating the common anti-depressant medications test no better than placebos. It can be read here in this JAMA write up:

http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=185157

There are a few "English" articles on it that can be seen with Google, with different people giving their opinions on the study.

Yeah, Peter Gotzsche of the Cochrane Research Center has some interesting writings on the large number of common drugs that test no better than placebo. Who knows. I don't know what to make of these things. If it works, it works.
Posted 8/12/2016 7:18 AM (GMT 0)
Mesmer used to pass magnets over people for healing purposes, this was in some respects the origins of the placebo effect and modern hypnosis.

If you guys want to pretend that the drugs for UC that have been approved by the medical community are scarcely better than placebo and that having magnets passed over you is a better idea, I strongly recommend doing more research and discussing it with a doctor. I'm not concerned about your own experiments but recommending other people go with you seems a big reckless, remember that advice you write on this forum may be taken up by someone who is having a very hard time and desperately looking for relief.

If I slip steroids into your drink every day, two things are likely to happen. 1. You will question my apparently extremely bitter palette. 2. The inflammation will heal up. You don't need to believe it will or know it will - in fact you could even know I'm doing it and strongly believe it won't help. It works because it's the real deal. Yes it doesn't work for everyone, and there are a range of responses, but keep repeating your experiments with IBD patients and you'll find something very interesting. Good luck doing that with your magnetism experiments.

I'm a great advocate of the mind and its power, I believe we essentially create our reality in our minds, that the world out there has no meaning until we create that meaning, and that healing through changes in mind space is absolutely possible. The power therefore is not in the magnets, nor the crystals. It's in you. But I am not going to tell a cancer sufferer to cheer up and believe everything's gonna be dandy, and expect that to do the job. Again, I'm a big advocate of positive mental space and that's very useful, but more so is treatment!

Post Edited (chickenwings1) : 8/12/2016 1:28:28 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 8/12/2016 12:39 PM (GMT 0)
No one has ever pretended that the drugs work for everyone. We know they don't work for a fairly substantial minority, and that is incredibly unfortunate. But they do work better than placebo - it's been shown time and time again in numerous trials.

Meanwhile, where is the evidence that magnet healing works? Or even that it does what it says it does?

/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnet_therapy#Purported_mechanisms_of_action

We know why the drugs work, but we have no idea why magnet therapy works - oh sorry, it doesn't work. At the very least, using magnets clearly isn't harmful, but I would recommend saving the money and putting it towards other aspects of your healthcare or even just buying a treat for yourself.
Posted 8/12/2016 3:42 PM (GMT 0)
Maybe we could swallow giant balls of lead, then sit on a giant magnet? I could see that working :-)
Posted 8/12/2016 10:16 PM (GMT 0)
"then sit on a giant magnet?"
Si. Best in front of a handsome man who sits on a magnet of opposite charge :)
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