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Posted 11/9/2016 10:19 AM (GMT 0)
What will Trump's election mean for us who are chronically ill? Will we be denied health care coverage again like before Obama because of pre-existing conditions? Will our medicine and treatments become more expensive now?

I understand that people who choose not to get health insurance won't be penalized anymore but other than that I'm not getting a clear understanding of his stance about health insurance. I'm very worried, anxious and confused.
Posted 11/9/2016 12:12 PM (GMT 0)
"What does the election mean for us" A great deal of uncertainty I'd wager. Repeal of the affordable care act is likely and what'll replace it *shrug*.
Posted 11/9/2016 12:38 PM (GMT 0)

Andrina said...
What will Trump's election mean for us who are chronically ill? Will we be denied health care coverage again like before Obama because of pre-existing conditions? Will our medicine and treatments become more expensive now?

I understand that people who choose not to get health insurance won't be penalized anymore but other than that I'm not getting a clear understanding of his stance about health insurance. I'm very worried, anxious and confused.

You can't exclude preexisting conditions without either raising rates or requiring everyone (larger insurance pool of policy holders) to have insurance; insurance structurally can't work without one of those things but voters are obviously too stupid to understand that. But oh yeah, he'll replace it with something much much better.

But that might be the least of our worries, this unstable man will have the codes to the nuclear freaking weapons.
Posted 11/9/2016 1:51 PM (GMT 0)
Do you think he really cares about anyone with a preexisting condition? He's the same guy who mocked the reporter with a disability.
Posted 11/9/2016 3:46 PM (GMT 0)
Maybe he will have us rounded up and killed (kidding of course!!!!)

So thankful I had surgery - not sure if I still have UC, but I guess my preexisting would be jpouch or UC... Definitely don't have a good health history.
Posted 11/9/2016 4:58 PM (GMT 0)
I am more worried about the state of the house and senate bein all red than trump alone. All three make me very worried about the cost of health care in our country and I hope that we are all well cared for. Time to start making calls to members of congress about the importance of affordable health care.
Posted 11/9/2016 6:16 PM (GMT 0)

momto2boys said...
I am more worried about the state of the house and senate bein all red than trump alone. All three make me very worried about the cost of health care in our country and I hope that we are all well cared for. Time to start making calls to members of congress about the importance of affordable health care.

They elected some republican house member in my district with some gerrymandered redistricting. I'm going to be all over the congressman's case about it with phone calls and maybe showing up to any live events that he has locally.

I think the ACA is done. I feel horrible for the people who woke up this morning and have an illness or a loved one who is sick and they only way that they could get health insurance was from Obamacare.

I seriously doubt it will be replaced with anything better.
Posted 11/9/2016 6:39 PM (GMT 0)
Well the majority of people within the USA don't have ACA policies, rather we get our health insurance through our place of work. So, the repeal won't impact everyone. Nor will the repeal benefit most, as the problems within the USA are far beyond ACA.

The main focus of the ACA was to increase the amount of people covered, and there it succeeded in reducing those without insurance to all time lows. However, the big problem that ACA never truly addressed head-on was billed and out of pocket cost of medical services and medicines (something we all know hurt real badly). Copay and deductible creep is also a huge issue, we get the bulk of it as we use lots of services.

Any better solution would have to enable price transparency (so we as empowered customers know what a medicine or service costs at different places and can shop around for the best price), mandate what is a fair price range for things based on worldwide prices (no reason usa should pay way more for a medication or colonoscopy than other countries do), and force generics into the market against all brandname objection (hello generic asacol please, anyone?).
Posted 11/9/2016 7:34 PM (GMT 0)
We're ruined. We don't matter. We're invalids who can't fight wars and don't go to work every day because we are sick.

We are now second class citizens in Trump's America.
Posted 11/9/2016 7:40 PM (GMT 0)

iPoop said...
Well the majority of people within the USA don't have ACA policies, rather we get our health insurance through our place of work. So, the repeal won't impact everyone. Nor will the repeal benefit most, as the problems within the USA are far beyond ACA.

The main focus of the ACA was to increase the amount of people covered, and there it succeeded in reducing those without insurance to all time lows. However, the big problem that ACA never truly addressed head-on was billed and out of pocket cost of medical services and medicines (something we all know hurt real badly). Copay and deductible creep is also a huge issue, we get the bulk of it as we use lots of services.

It was 20 Million of the most uninsurable Americans out there that were covered by the ACA/Obamacare.

I have insurance through work and I live in a state that excludes discriminating against preexisting conditions, that's why our premiums were always about twice as much as the national averages because insurance companies were forced to cover everyone for the same prices.
Posted 11/9/2016 7:59 PM (GMT 0)
I don't have an employer offering me health insurance. I'll either have to spend every available cent on medication/coverage or just wither away if I stay in this country and the changes being promised come to pass.
Posted 11/9/2016 8:54 PM (GMT 0)
I think he can't repeal the ACA without substituting something similar. Not only do 20 million people use it but hospitals, insurance companies and drug companies have substantially altered their businesses because of it. There would be huge push back from all of those interest groups.
Posted 11/9/2016 9:03 PM (GMT 0)

notsosicklygirl said...
Maybe he will have us rounded up and killed (kidding of course!!!!)

In sadly ironic news, today is the 78th anniversary of the Kristallnacht in Germany. Were the Germans (can't say ****s) began the concentration camps by rounding up 30,000 jews, killing about 100 and burning 1000 synagogues and 7000 jewish businesses. It later evolved into the holocaust were some of the people that were killed were because they were disabled.
Posted 11/9/2016 9:21 PM (GMT 0)
i think maybe y'all need to let things play out a bit before ya add premature stress to your susceptible colons -
Posted 11/9/2016 9:21 PM (GMT 0)

Richard in NY said...
I think he can't repeal the ACA without substituting something similar. Not only do 20 million people use it but hospitals, insurance companies and drug companies have substantially altered their businesses because of it. There would be huge push back from all of those interest groups.

The whole criticism of the 60+ previous repeal votes for the ACA was that the republicans never offered anything of substance to replace it with, part of the reason there isn't a fix for it unless they either allow for charging higher rates for preexisting conditions & claims or requiring everyone to have insurance.

Allowing selling over state lines won't really help the situation and don't get me started about health savings accounts. The ACA is for helping some of the most sick and vulnerable 20 million people in the US.
Posted 11/9/2016 9:51 PM (GMT 0)
hehe, well you know... all the insurance companies are going to have open competition beyond state lines and they will compete to cover our sick behinds. That way we can get lower prices - because all the stellar companies are dying to cover people who are sick and costly.

I am thankful my health is OK right now and I am not dependent on having healthcare coverage or on RX drugs. I have insurance through work luckily too. I will continue to fight for the people who aren't so lucky. I remember when I was uninsured and trying to get a diagnosis. Unable to get coverage, unable to afford paying out of pocket. I guess in some sense, I get it, many people feel like "we" are not their problem. Maybe there is some truth to that.

I was joking about the rounding us up thing.

i think the structure of "family" needs to be redefined. I would cover some others with my plan if I could, but without a piece of paper you can't cover anyone.
Posted 11/9/2016 10:13 PM (GMT 0)
Shop across state lines (their suggestion) without a universal standard of what's covered (an ACA thing) only will sell useless paper without value. I got a deal on health Insurance for the lowest premium, but just read that fine print: Skeeter's Bait, Tackle, and Health Insurance Co only covers a can of nightcrawlers and a six pack of cheap beer for any reported ailment from some state where regulations of adequate coverage don't exist.
Posted 11/9/2016 10:28 PM (GMT 0)
It hasn't even been 24 hours yet. Time will tell .... give him a chance to make it better. The affordable healthcare act is anything but affordable.
Posted 11/9/2016 10:32 PM (GMT 0)
I think it's important to keep an open mind. Let's see what he does. Right now I have Obamacare and I am very unhappy with this. Unhappy with plan and price. I will be interested to see what happens.
Posted 11/9/2016 11:04 PM (GMT 0)
The plans are bad under the current ACA, but before we couldn't even get a plan. i was flat out denied multiple times. I am not saying bad plans are better than nothing, because from what I've seen, sometimes they aren't. If i can save my money every month, maybe it's cheaper to pay out of pocket - with the level of coverage some of these plans providing being next to nothing with deductibles are through the roof.

Hopefully something good comes of all this. I agree, only time will tell. I am trying to go into it with an open mind. At least before affordable care, there were assistance programs for the uninsured. Now, with everyone insured, they no longer exist. I pretty much got by entirely on PAPs when I was uninsured and it was WAY cheaper than these monthly premiums I've seen.
Posted 11/9/2016 11:38 PM (GMT 0)
some reason for optimism from Business Insider, I suppose...

Republicans, including Ryan, have floated plans that would bear some similarities to Obamacare, including tax credits to ensure continued expansion of coverage and methods of providing care for patients.

Trump's health plan has been less clear, but he has mentioned "doing away with the lines" between states. This appears to mean that state regulation of health insurance — all 50 states have their own insurance commissioners and regulation agencies — would be done away with in favor of unified regulations. The exact coverage proposals are unclear, according to Cox.

These moves, however, cannot affect some of the other measures, such as the inability of insurers to deny people based on a preexisting condition.

"Some of the coverage aspects of the law would stay in place," Cox said. "Gender rating where women can't be charged more than men, older people can only be charged three times more than young people, younger people can stay on their parents' insurance until they're 26 — those can't be changed though reconciliation."
Posted 11/10/2016 11:40 AM (GMT 0)
I'm not Russian or Syrian, a Clinton or a Trump supporter, but given 10 of 11 leading arms manufacturers were backing Clinton I'd say the people with UC in Russia and Syria have a better chance. Domestically in the US I agree with the poster above on letting it first play out.
Posted 11/10/2016 12:33 PM (GMT 0)
What on earth are you talking about isleman? Are you suggesting that people in war torn Syria have a better chance of UC treatment than people in the USA? And have you ever been to Russia? Wow.
Posted 11/10/2016 1:33 PM (GMT 0)
We aren't going to see eye to eye. I'm radical-left politically, we even disagree on how to handle UC, and my point was that the people with UC in Syria and Russia will be better off probably - though Trump can be unpredictable - with less chance of a no-fly-zone (which Clinton said she would apply). This would've brought the US and Russia in direct conflict. Hence why Russians are celebrating. A person with UC already has a wretched disease to deal with. With bombs - in the case of Syria more bombs - falling on those countries his or her problems would worsen.
Posted 11/10/2016 3:07 PM (GMT 0)
Russia has been indiscriminately bombing Aleppo in order to support Assad. If you think they will now ease up on their attacks you are unduly optimistic. The only hope for those people was concerted international pressure on Russia, which is now less likely.
As far as UC treatment goes, it is an individual matter which neither you nor I ought to pretend to have authority.
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