Isatis cooling

Me! I used isatis Cooling 2 years ago to get into remission after reading about it here. At the time, I was flaring badly and had become prednisone resistant- we were looking at going on Remi. I had read about it and figured I had nothing to lose. At that time, I believe I took 5 pills 3 times a day until things were under control- then stepped it down from there. I knew within the first 24 hours that it was making a huge difference, and from what I hear ifnits going to work you will know quickly. I think Qing Dai is one of the ingredients but I'm not sure? I know people have success with that too.

I take the Isatis Cooling now when I feel like things could be slipping a bit. Many people take it with 2 other supplements, RF plus and Flavonex. All of them are available on Amazon.

Let me know if you have other questions and I'm happy to help.

What is this isatis cooling?

I was looking into taking this as well, but I am already on a TCM herbal mixture. Can isatis cooling be combined with other herbs?

As a side note, I asked my TCM doc about quing dai before and he refused to give it to me. Said it is taken for leukemia.... I want to try it anyway, since there are many positive stories about it.

Does anyone know if it's ok to take while on entyvio?

I have been taking 1.5g of qing dai twice a day for one month. I have ulcerative proctitis and been in the worst flare of my life since November. At the same time I started qing dai the dr switched me from Asacol to Lialda and gave me one more month of canasa. I had been using canasa for 4.5 months and never could fully get rid of the blood and urgency, ran out and everything took a nose dive again. So after reading on this site I ordered qing dai and figured i had nothing to lose by trying it. Although I switched meds and started canasa again at the same time I feel like the qing dai is part of why I'm starting to feel so much better. My stools are formed, i have feel less days of stomach upset (don't usually have the cramping I hear about just an unsettled feeling), the blood has almost completely gone away during bm (just barly visible in the stool and only sometimes) and I'm able to get through a workout without running to the bathroom. I already ordered more so I can keep on it for at least a couple months. I'm hopeful but until I can eat like I used to and gain some of the weight back I won't swear by it.

You take it after a meal? I've been taking it before because I read somewhere here that another member thought that was more effective in their case.

The weight loss was before starting the Qing Dai. With the flare I've limited my foods to such plain and bland stuff that I'm just not getting the fats and calories I used to. I love sandwiches and Mexican and that's pretty much off limits here

Thank you for elaborating on this Connor77, fascinating details. I think I'll look into the book and also those other herbs. I am seriously thinking about stopping the RX meds and trying this out.

I have the CC herbals blend which has Qing Dai, Huang Qin and Mu Xiang in it. I decided to wait to gauge my progress with my current treatment first.

I am also going to look into natural immunomodulators like ashwagandha. Do you have any thoughts about adaptogenic herbs?

I believe this is the book you reference ?
https://www.amazon.com/Herbal-Antibiotics-Alternatives-Treating-Drug-Resistant/dp/0717131300

I think it could be the side effect from Isatis Cooling. My daughter started taking it after our GI suggested it. She had some blood and diarrhea before she started on them. She was taking 3 Isatis Cooling, 2 Flavonex, 2 RF Plus -3 times a day. Her blood and diarrhea disappeared and she was having 1bm a day for 1 month. Then, she started with mushy bm 4-5 times a day and some cramps. So, we started playing with the dosage. We noticed that her stool was more formed with smaller dose. Now she is taking 1 Isatis, 1 Flavonex, 1 RF Plus-2 times a day for the last 2 weeks and I think her bm stabilized. I don't know which of the herbs make a difference, but I think it's Isatis Colling. I remember our GI said that Isatis can cause diarrhea, I still have to call him to find out about our dosage changes. Please keep us updated on your situation. And good luck with Isatis.

I'm on month 4 of Qing Dai with no meds (Lialda+Uceris). Since I started there has been no bleeding and most (80-90%) of my inflammation has been gone. Started Isatis Cooling in addition to help deal with remaining inflammation that was causing discomfort. It has definitely helped, no more aching. Only taking 2-4 capsules per day with 3g qingdai. The formula seems to address what qingdai didn't. Staying consistent with fish/cbd oil and multivitamins too. Every little bit to fight off remaining inflammation helps.

How exactly did you figure CC herbal was a scam? Since you didn't even bother to give it some time to see if it actually works for you, what evidence did you happen upon that indicated it was a scam?

I for one can attest that Qing Dai has worked for me, (though not 100% but a pretty darn big part of the disease), but it took many months of patiently waiting to get better.

There are many studies of qing dai which is the main ingredient in IC. You're a regular here, have you honestly not seen the link to the clinical trials pop up in the forum numerous times?

If you approach every alternative treatment with such pessimism and throw things in the trash after one dose while ignoring the research done on their efficacy treating UC .... then no, it will not work for you.

I saw in my old post I tried CC herbal and it did not work for me. I don't remember I guess because I have tried so many supplements and medications.

I'm only day 3 in from when I quit it and tried the chinese herb tea that was "made" for me. I'm still having great effect from Formula H and now I have added in Source QI to help with my diareeah, (diarreah is not bad), and I hope it takes away urgency, this too has been alot better! It warms the body too by getting circulation moving.

The last two stelara shots did nothing for me. I was having episodes of waking up in the middle of the night, barely making it to the bathroom, smelly pus and diarreah. I would go on anitbiotics, then diflucan, pred and be in a vicious cycle.

I hope I continue to improve on this. I will keep you posted.

Linda

Just formula H, . I'm adding in RF Plus to ease my gas and bloating as well. I just tried one RF yesterday (says take two a day) I'm cautious on everything, so that's why I'm sticking with formula H and adding a little here and there to see if my poop doesn't get firmer and rounder. Bulk up. Physllium aggravates my colon. More bleeding.

The herbalist I have been talking to, I sent him a email , asking him just to counsel me on Health Concerns products, since they seem to be helping. I'm waiting for his response. His store ,Dr.Shen Clinic, sells them so he knows the product.

There is old post about taking isatis cooling, formula H and RF plus. It helped people. I saw improvement within days of taking formula H, isatis cooling seemed like it helped ifor two days and after no help after that. Bleeding has almost stopped with Formula H. Was it all hemmroids? I doubt it. Because sometimes I would have the urge Togo and it was like bloody, skin or mucus. It is much better now with formula H.