New to forum, overwhelmed with information! Dietary advice?

IamCurious said...
It could very well be that somebody like brucen has lymphonodular hyperplasia and not UC, or he may have lymphonodular hyperplasia (or some other similar condition) in addition to having UC.

So you guys know more than Brucen's GI?

I might. You never know. It wouldn't be the first time, or the last, that I know more about IBD than a random GI does.

IamCurious said...
The 2nd study was a comprehensive search using PubMed to identify relevant scientific studies on diet and/or nutrients and their role in IBD. The results of those “Epidemiological studies highlight the key role of diet in IBD development, and many IBD patients report diet as a triggering factor in relapse of disease”

But you guys seem to know more than the people who gathered those scientific studies.

It's a lame tactic, not to mention a logical fallacy, to say "I guess you think you know more.." whenever somebody criticizes a study.

I guess you think that all studies are above criticism? (See how logical fallacies work?)

I know enough, having seen many studies on diet, to know that it's tough to draw ANY conclusions about diet helping or not. I also know that epidemiological studies are wrought with flaws, that people often report their dietary intake inaccurately, and that properly controlled, prospective dietary studies are very hard to do, expensive, and time consuming.

IamCurious said...
It could very well be that somebody like brucen has lymphonodular hyperplasia and not UC, or he may have lymphonodular hyperplasia (or some other similar condition) in addition to having UC.

So you guys know more than Brucen's GI?

I should also add that "knowing more" isn't even the issue here. Do you think Brucen's GI is infallible? That Brucen's GI could never miss a diagnosis or not recognize a second condition occurring on top of a primary one?

I'd love to meet a doctor that always diagnoses diseases correctly and never misses anything.

NCOT said...
/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27793606

On the other hand you could always try eating potatoes and legumes: /www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28550491

Thank you NCOT
for allowing us to see two more studies in NIH's PubMed that show the link between food and IBD.

Can't we all agree to respect other opinions? I don't know about anyone else but I get really tired of seeing threads hijacked by the ever-endless debate between diet and medication this debate should go in a different thread. I this k argumentative and confrontational posts are very off-putting to new people. And old people too!

FlowersGal said...
Can't we all agree to respect other opinions? I don't know about anyone else but I get really tired of seeing threads hijacked by the ever-endless debate between diet and medication this debate should go in a different thread. I this k argumentative and confrontational posts are very off-putting to new people. And old people too!

And I just get really tired of seeing this sort of post as soon as any of sort of discussion on diet crops up: some of us actually enjoy debating things. If you don't, that's absolutely fair enough, but nobody is forcing you to read it or take part - it's literally one thread you have to avoid.

and every other thread that gets hijacked by this debate. smilewinkgrin


Links to recent threads where this has happened please.

Edit: Okay, I found one recent thread which is currently sitting on page 3: www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=38&m=3853683

That wasn't even a meds vs. diet debate, it was a debate about med toxicity. I felt it was important to correct some misinformation that was given, which was why I weighed in.

Post Edited (NiceCupOfTea) : 6/5/2017 10:35:54 AM (GMT-6)

I do love a good debate, and I can understand both sides of this one for sure, but I was hoping for more info on candida... Thanks natof9 for sharing your experience.

To weigh in on the med vs. diet issue: I am not anti-med at all, but my logic is based on my past personal experience. I went into remission for years by excluding gluten from my diet. Is it possible that it was a random remission for no reason? Sure, that is possible, but I had experiences when I would accidentally consume gluten and then have a reaction. As I came out of remission I kept suspecting accidental contamination but I eventually came to believe that something else was the culprit. Now that I am flaring I can't say if gluten really matters for me.

Not long ago, I was on the Zone diet, and looking back, I did notice an improvement at that time. I was working out like crazy (there was a challenge at my gym to reduce "Fran" time, which I did). My Naturopath has since warned me against working out with intensity, but now I am beginning to think I did better with the workouts than without, which is purely psychological and my own fault because I can't work out "moderately" with any consistency. My flare has worsened since I quit going to the gym.

Anyway, my thought at the moment is that the lower-carb diet with a focus on healthy fats and high protein was helpful for me.

I would probably try the medication as well but I will give dietary changes a little longer to see if I can avoid the medications for now. I ordered a book on candida to read on kindle. My hope is that if my condition correlates with the candida information then I will have a better understanding of what foods to choose and will possibly get myself into remission again.

I appreciate the info/opinions/educated guesses from all perspectives. The more information, the better.

I do happen to think that the gluten was simply an intolerance that was contributing to my flare ups. My symptoms took time to go away after I removed the gluten, and I remained strictly off gluten consistently, so it does not seem to be the reason for the current flare.

My hope is that removing all intolerances will allow the UC to go back into remission, since that has happened for me before. I realize that UC is a lifelong disease and not cured by removing an intolerance, but I think that somehow when my immune system is running well, it is less likely to rear its ugly head.

When I stopped going to the gym, I also started eating out more, drinking more, and traveling a lot. I'm sure these are bigger factors. I blame my new boyfriend, and would be mad if I wasn't having a blast aside from my UC flare.

I keep trying to find the culprit, and candida (perhaps a candida intolerance) may be it. I know alcohol makes me worse and it seems in general it's not very bad for UC. I have an intolerance to egg, which I thought was the reason I would feel terrible after eating gluten free baked goods, but perhaps it was really the simple carbs in the gluten free flour.

Since I'm still flaring and can't test my "Intolerant" foods separately to confirm the blood test results, I am considering them unconfirmed for now.