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Posted 10/18/2018 1:51 PM (GMT 0)
Old Mike

Enjoy your remission from bleeding. You get to decide whether to get a scope, your life and based on your history understandable. But give yourself the gift of changing your mind at some later date.
I am always tempted to try new things that reliable people say worked just to have them in my emergency kit even though no bleeding for me in years. I tried olive leaf drops a while back, didn't keep that up, kept wormwood for occasional use (1-2 times a year max).

Thanks for posting.
Posted 10/18/2018 3:32 PM (GMT 0)
What about swallowing a pill-cam? I've never tried it but how bad could it be?
Posted 10/21/2018 8:50 AM (GMT 0)
OM, I know how it feels to deal with the inhumane, rude and arrogant ignorance of the whole medical system, and the feelings of helplessness as a patient, though I don't know how it feels as a father. I had a colectomy two years ago and living with a stoma is not fun...

Olive leaf extract might increase NO levels, be careful.

Visioli F, Bellosta S, Galli C. Oleuropein, the bitter principle of olives, enhances nitric oxide production by mouse macrophages. Life Sci. 1998;62(6):541-6.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/s0024320597011508

Rocha BS, Gago B, Barbosa RM, Laranjinha J. Dietary polyphenols generate nitric oxide from nitrite in the stomach and induce smooth muscle relaxation. Toxicology.2009 Nov 9;265(1-2):41-8.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/s0300483x09004818

I would be wary of ingesting leaf extracts, because our digestive system is not suited for ingesting them without getting harmed by their protective toxins.

Anyway, If you could find a likeable doctor, taking 5-ASA (rectal/oral) might help a lot as a chemopreventive. Might even help your UC.

Post Edited (xy123) : 10/31/2018 2:36:49 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 10/21/2018 12:09 PM (GMT 0)

xy123's articles said...
oleuropein potentiates the macrophage-mediated response, resulting in higher NO production, currently believed to be beneficial for cellular and organismal protection.

phenol-containing dietary products induce a strong increase of NO in the stomach was established in an in vivo experiment with healthy volunteers consuming lettuce, onions, apples, wine, tea, berries and cherries.

Those articles don't indicate to me that olive leaf extracts are particularly dangerous. But that doesn't mean there may not be some possible side effects. (Viagra also increases nitric oxide, that's how it works):

https://www.nutritionexpress.com/showarticle.aspx?articleid=286
Viagra works by influencing enzymes in the nitric oxide pathway, causing a cascade of enzymatic reactions that enhance nitric oxide, causing more blood flow and better erections.

Nitric oxide has gotten the most attention due to its cardiovascular benefits. Alfred Nobel, the founder of the Nobel Prize, was prescribed nitroglycerin over 100 years ago by his doctor to help with his heart problems. He was skeptical, knowing nitroglycerin was used in dynamite, but this chemical helped with his heart condition. Little did he know nitroglycerin acts by releasing nitric oxide which relaxes narrowed blood vessels, increasing oxygen and blood flow.
Posted 10/31/2018 12:12 PM (GMT 0)
38 years!

Congratulations Old Mike
Posted 11/8/2018 8:55 AM (GMT 0)
Haven't been on the forum for a bit as happily have been doing better. Happy for you to see this post. Anti-viral properties of olive leaf perhaps helping? Some of us seem to be helped by anti-virals when on them for other reasons than UC.

As for a scope - just wanted to say they are so different now to the 80s (when I used to have to undergo the rigid sig). I guess in the States it is different to the UK as you have more choice where to go but so long as you go somewhere scrupulously clean with the latest tech I think you'll find it so different. There's a variety of sedations you can have and in the past years they use here carbon dioxide alone instead of oxygen to expand the bowel which is less painful and less windy afterwards.

Someone mentioned pillcam but that is not much good for catching early stage cell changes, biopsies are needed for that.
Posted 12/17/2018 8:54 PM (GMT 0)
I too haven't been on the forum quite a while now but I do remember Old Mike.

Really happy to hear that the longest flare I have ever heard of is now over smile

Congratulations!
Posted 12/18/2018 12:18 AM (GMT 0)
Wow OM! That is amazing...I guess you never know what is going to do it. May it continue.....

B
Posted 12/18/2018 4:03 PM (GMT 0)
Congrats OM. Happy for you!
Posted 12/19/2018 2:33 AM (GMT 0)
Olive leaf has anti-microbial properties. I wonder if that gives a hint about the nature of your UC.

My UC started after living in Asia, too.

OM, any theories on why olive leaf might be working?
Posted 1/7/2019 10:08 AM (GMT 0)
Hi Mike,

any update? Is Olive leaf extract still working?
Posted 1/9/2019 4:46 PM (GMT 0)
Not as good as before back to some blood, but have not taken a lot. May also need zinc and selenium and cq10 still experimenting.
OM
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